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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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I have a b16 with an AFI ramhorn manifold, garret turbo blah blah. 440hp. Well had it running for about a week or so. I have beaten on it a fair amount, and today my buddy pointed out that 4 of my studs on top where the manifold bolts to the head were sheared off. Studs are still there but the nut and rest of stud sheared off.

question-Anyone ever have this problem? if so what have you done to beef it up, or should i look into seeing if ARP hardware is the way to go? thanks
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Yep happened to me. Go out and buy some stainless steel studs or buy bolts and make your own studs. That's what I did and haven't had a problem in years.

The problem with a lot of the studs people use is that they cannot take BOTH the weight and heat a turbo setup produces.

Also, make sure you have them tight enough. Sometimes they sheer off from the weight and not being torqued properly.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Ok thanks man. ya i figure it was the weight for sure....
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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does ARP make hardware for this?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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I think kingmotorsports sells hardened bolts for this purpose.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Were the studs in the middle or towards the outside sheared off? Sometimes they can shear as the flange expands from heat. The holes in the manifold should be larger towards the outside to help account for this expansion. I'm not familiar with AFI manifolds to say if this is how they are but it's something else to check. Another method is to slot the flange between each runner to give the runners room to move.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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^ good info
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by raene
Were the studs in the middle or towards the outside sheared off? Sometimes they can shear as the flange expands from heat. The holes in the manifold should be larger towards the outside to help account for this expansion. I'm not familiar with AFI manifolds to say if this is how they are but it's something else to check. Another method is to slot the flange between each runner to give the runners room to move.
I have to look at the manifold again to check the outside flange holes. The bolts that sheared off were every single top on but the last rigt stud...All the bottoms are still in..

What do you mean by slot the flange between each runner?

Thanks for the help man...
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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yea i am having the same problem i saw that king had some stud but didnt get around to them yet. if you find anything than stock lmk
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zodiac_00
yea i am having the same problem i saw that king had some stud but didnt get around to them yet. if you find anything than stock lmk
i tried to look quickly on their site but didn't find them with little time i had to get on to search.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 05:18 AM
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Arp makes accessory studs that are 190000psi tinsel stregth and stainless steel. They come in odd number packGes so you either have to be shirt one stud or have like 7 to many I just get the package that leaves you one short and use a stock stud for that. I've had mine for 5 years without a single issue
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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I found a 10-pack of ARP stainless studs m8 x 1.25 38mm length (oem are 37mm). Part# 400-8022. But they are like $80 at JEGS

OP, do you have a flex pipe in the exhaust system? might help to cut down on vibrations.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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I use the ARP accessory studs for better serviceability. The repeated install/removal of the stock bolts started to gull the threads. I studded them before it become worse.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dpetro1
I found a 10-pack of ARP stainless studs m8 x 1.25 38mm length (oem are 37mm). Part# 400-8022. But they are like $80 at JEGS

OP, do you have a flex pipe in the exhaust system? might help to cut down on vibrations.
ah im running open downpipe and i do not. i am going to get a full 3in back exhaust with flex pipe. But i will def look into that thanks man
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Do NOT use King. Those are the ones that sheared off on me! Use ARP or another other stainless studs/bolts you can find. I believe I got my Stainless studs from mcmaster
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Yo need to get longer than stock ones be ause they measure overall length of the stud and 1/4 inch of the tip of the stud is not threded
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