<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fastGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Guess that answers our comp4 questions. . . . </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, if that's the case it's a bit disappointing. I was looking forward to getting beat by all you this year.

 

hey Glenn, I emailed you ... this is Greg Samaroo.

thanks

 

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Yeah, if that's the case it's a bit disappointing. I was looking forward to getting beat by all you this year. </TD></TR></TABLE>

PS here you come

Marc P

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DrivenGSX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When has there ever been 8 AWD cars in the low 11's at an event? Come on man, if FWD's can use only radials, it's the same rules as two years ago. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup and 2 years ago I almost gave it up cause of far far too much in breakage. sucks that they push racers away cause they cant afford to make reliable set ups for the rules.

I believe 2 years ago at norwalk the top 4 or 6 were AWD cars with Dan Balijus(sorry if I miss spelled the last name Dan) running 10.2's.

My gripe isnt even gettin stomped it is breaking 4k worth of parts I cant afford. Just glad I didnt buy a truck and can get out of it now.

 

Radials break **** bad. The only way the FWD can hang with the AWD is a bias ply tire, look at the CM integra went 9.50's on slicks and 11.0s 10.9's on radials. Radials just cant take the abuse with out wheel hopping and breaking parts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIGTUNA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Radials break **** bad. The only way the FWD can hang with the AWD is a bias ply tire, look at the CM integra went 9.50's on slicks and 11.0s 10.9's on radials. Radials just cant take the abuse with out wheel hopping and breaking parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm i guess.

Ive never wheel hopped ever in my race cars, its either spin or hook.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIGTUNA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Radials break **** bad. The only way the FWD can hang with the AWD is a bias ply tire, look at the CM integra went 9.50's on slicks and 11.0s 10.9's on radials. Radials just cant take the abuse with out wheel hopping and breaking parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly. thats why my car is for sale in the FS thread


I would love to hear the reasoning for making the class less attainable for the low buck grassroots guy. Im sure it is tire company BS politics but just would love to hear it



Modified by BoostR41 at 9:00 PM 2/4/2008

 

Some other tid bits from today. This is from memory so it may not all be right!

Turbo Street is the name for the Spfwd-T4 cars.Most cars will run 72mm turbo's,
Ecotech and K's will get 70's and I think he said 68's for AWD cars.

AWD's 2900 pounds, FWD 2450, 2nd power adder is 150 pounds. Strain gauge
setups add 50 pounds.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerStev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some other tid bits from today. This is from memory so it may not all be right!

Turbo Street is the name for the Spfwd-T4 cars.Most cars will run 72mm turbo's,
Ecotech and K's will get 70's and I think he said 68's for AWD cars.

AWD's 2900 pounds, FWD 2450, 2nd power adder is 150 pounds. Strain gauge
setups add 50 pounds.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

AWD is a 70mm/no nos with slicks and you have to run radials if you add nitrous. Weight limits dont really matter cause they are heavy anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MARC P &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

PS here you come</TD></TR></TABLE>

More like brackets!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerStev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some other tid bits from today. This is from memory so it may not all be right!

Turbo Street is the name for the Spfwd-T4 cars.Most cars will run 72mm turbo's,
Ecotech and K's will get 70's and I think he said 68's for AWD cars.

AWD's 2900 pounds, FWD 2450, 2nd power adder is 150 pounds. Strain gauge
setups add 50 pounds.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget about 100lb weight penalty for Dog boxes.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Antilag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't forget about 100lb weight penalty for Dog boxes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was told that it was 50lbs for dogbox, and 50lbs for strain gauge... but who the hell really knows

 

so min weight is 2500 plus 100 more, where do i put 250lb of lead upfront?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Dead babies weigh more Easier to mold to fit too </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats just wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Dead babies weigh more Easier to mold to fit too </TD></TR></TABLE>

rolf

 

25lb of lead is $55.00 so that would be $550 of just weight

well I guess it is better then being an under weight hatch

 

I also heard that at the end of the track there gonna build a huge 100ft launch ramp, for us to get some air, Then we can pull our chutes and float it down. To excite the competition and please the crowd. But thats just what i heard.
j/k.
You maybe right Jeff i think it was a 100lb combo for both crash box and strain gauge.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Antilag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also heard that at the end of the track there gonna build a huge 100ft launch ramp, for us to get some air, Then we can pull our chutes and float it down. To excite the competition and please the crowd. But thats just what i heard.
j/k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That just possibly could be what it takes to draw the focus from the girls and drifting.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cluelessmale &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">25lb of lead is $55.00 so that would be $550 of just weight

well I guess it is better then being an under weight hatch</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lead is $1/lb around here. Want me to ship you some? lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to mention the AWD cars on true street radials can go mid 10s as was proven last year so FWDs on drag radials will be lucky to qualify if there are 8 awd cars even with low 11's as times</TD></TR></TABLE>Imagine how all motor cars feel about running this class.Everyone said it was such a good idea just because Loan did well.Everyone doesnt have the engine program that Loan has or the money her team has.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe 2 years ago at norwalk the top 4 or 6 were AWD cars with Dan Balijus(sorry if I miss spelled the last name Dan) running 10.2's.

My gripe isnt even gettin stomped it is breaking 4k worth of parts I cant afford. Just glad I didnt buy a truck and can get out of it now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If im not mistaken Andrea (Koury) Evans was second in points two years ago with a fwd with a very basic set up

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIGTUNA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Radials break **** bad. The only way the FWD can hang with the AWD is a bias ply tire, look at the CM integra went 9.50's on slicks and 11.0s 10.9's on radials. Radials just cant take the abuse with out wheel hopping and breaking parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>i think the reason the CM integra went 10.9s is because imagine trying to put 900+hp to the ground on radials.This class is design for lower budgets and cars making 600hp range.Im sure they backed the power down but i doubt they were at 600hp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedJeff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I was told that it was 50lbs for dogbox, and 50lbs for strain gauge... but who the hell really knows </TD></TR></TABLE>

and I was told 100lbs for each. lol

I like your rumor better.

 

when you go to every race you end up well in points.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMoToRB18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Imagine how all motor cars feel about running this class.Everyone said it was such a good idea just because Loan did well.Everyone doesnt have the engine program that Loan has or the money her team has.


If im not mistaken Andrea (Koury) Evans was second in points two years ago with a fwd with a very basic set up

i think the reason the CM integra went 10.9s is because imagine trying to put 900+hp to the ground on radials.This class is design for lower budgets and cars making 600hp range.Im sure they backed the power down but i doubt they were at 600hp</TD></TR></TABLE>

low budget 600hp range? 67mm turbos are capable of making 750+whp, as far as im concerned that budget isnt much different than a sfwd car making 800+.

now imagine a 750whp awd car good luck competing on radials even with the weight advantage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Antilag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also heard that at the end of the track there gonna build a huge 100ft launch ramp, for us to get some air, Then we can pull our chutes and float it down. To excite the competition and please the crowd. But thats just what i heard.
j/k</TD></TR></TABLE>
After hearing that, I will definately put the chute on the car even before the rules are released.

 

Steve, you definately did not pay attention to most of what I told you. Most of the Turbo Street stuff you qouted was way off......


In Power Street, the AWD cars that went mid 10's where on the DOT tires that the fwd cars were on. Due to the rules being fairly grey, most got by with running a version of the M/T ET Street.........Not what the rules were intended to be..........

Now the FWD cars will be on Drag radials, as well as the AWD cars......

Just so you know, this is how everyone gets confussed on everything. When people try and remember what the rules are.........

Sorry to be an *** about this, but, we will just have to wait for the rulebook to be released now. I don't want anymore info passed out that is incorrect........