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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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BEN's back!!!! I want to go to the next Baja, congrats on the win! what kind vehicle? that stuff is so so cool.

my Bullish boys rewrote the record books again today, george went a 6.70@207
lost in the final to Scranton, lost at the tree, we'll get him next week at atco!

I need you guys to give me your opionion(honest, don't hold back please)
I have a 240SX and I was thinking about putting a 2JZ motor in it single turbo set up maybe 800-1100 hp or LS-1 motor, or just junk it
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Is it a nice 240SX? 1000rwhp with a 9" with a 4-Link...daily driver

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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Hey Guys.....

The car is a class 10 buggy in the SCORE series.....all the engines must be 1750cc for a two seater, so the Honda camp crowd usually go with the B16.

The suspension is unlimited so these cars tend to get pretty high dollar....... they are very fast though!

If you wanna test your engine building skills though..........the SCORE series is the place to do it..............that desert stuff is by far the most harsh and brutal environment I have ever witnessed.......you do NOT wanna be trying to retrieve your vehicle 300 miles out in the desert after an engine failure!

HEAD, thanks for the welcome back bro..............as far as the project car.......it mostly depends on your time budget.....I don't suppose I need to tell you how much of a commitment a project that would be..........but if you got the time...Go For It!
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 03:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HEAD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need you guys to give me your opionion(honest, don't hold back please)
I have a 240SX and I was thinking about putting a 2JZ motor in it single turbo set up maybe 800-1100 hp or LS-1 motor, or just junk it</TD></TR></TABLE>

head, you should go with a rb26 out of a skyline. fits perfict and the wiring was simple. just put one in a friends car, it a monster.

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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 06:12 AM
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I wonder how the heads flow in comparison to a 2JZ?
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Go 2jz over the skyline. Parts are so much easier to come by for the 2j. A guy down here has an rb25 making 792rwhp on the 2.5 motor in a 240 but getting parts sucks.
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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Hey, what happened to Curtis? YoooHoooo...........hey you still with us buddy?
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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price is what made me decide to go with the 2JZ because I know I can make 800hp with stock internals, the RB26 is (from what I hear) to around 700hp w/stock internals. Which is fine if that would be enough for you but I couldn't leave it like that forever, a RB26 crank is $5,000, a stock 2JZ crank just went 207mph in a 2350lb car. plus getting parts from Japan has got to be a ***** and very expensive, 2JZ stuff is everywhere. Problems I have with it is, I would definitly get carried away with this project and I would end up with a 7sec. race car if I went to the 2JZ , I know a LS1 motor fits very nicely to, there is a shop down the street from me who has done the swap haven't driven it yet, but it looks more like a street car. I am very torn because I can not decide what i want that's why I asked you guys--- thanx
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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I know, how about a twin turbo LS-1?

Go big, or go home...right?
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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youll spend as much on the ls1 as the 2j if you want to go turbo and get crazy!!
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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I would spend ALOT more by the time I buy all
the internals to put the bottom end toghther for
the Ls1, I know heads and cam on LS1 will make
430 rwhp and will go 11.50-11.30 in a vette which
weighs 600lbs more, 7's with the 2JZ 800hp?
I wish I had alot of money I would just build both!
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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does porting your head effect emissions at all? or gas millage even?
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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In most cases it will increase gas millage and lower you emissions because you are increasing the effiency of the motor, I had a customer with a LT1 camaro that would not pass emissions before and it was stock, after heads and cam it sounded mean, got better gas millage, and passed the emissions test with flying colors
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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interesting....you think it's becaus eth eflow is better or the engine was freshened up? Seems to me it would want to idle a bit more on the lean side since the flow is higher........of course it would run in closed loop........but I just wonder.....hmmmm
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFIGUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, what happened to Curtis? YoooHoooo...........hey you still with us buddy?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey gang, .. sorry, went racin' .. .. Ben, .. you've GOT to get a Formula Ford! I was at Mid Ohio, . the same track they run the CART champ cars on. What a fun race track, .. like a roller coaster!

Any way, .. I have a TON of work to get done, .. second biggest race of the year in a few weeks and a bunch of heads to deliver for it!!

So, .. back to the grind.

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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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welcome back Curtis! You bastard...I want one !!! No really Glad you had fun, now get back to work..........

I just finished up a test port on a WRX Subaru.......got it flowing 287 CFM on the Intake and 217 CFM on the exhaust...............mostly due to what i've learned from You and Woofer and the rest of the gang here
Thanks Guys!!!
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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you guys seem to know a lot about the b16's but have any of you experimented with the h22 head? i'm looking to put in some .466 lift 297 intake 287 exhaust cams, 68mm tb, and skunk2 manifold when it comes out. i have a guy that says he can do it, but i'm not sure how much experience he has with the h22 either? any suggestions on what to look for? this is for a 11:1 street all motor car. should i mess with polishing the skunk2 maifold or no? i'll have him port match the tb, im, and head. maybe clean up the port entries on the intake and exhaust ports and smoothen out the combustion chamber a little? anyone have a h22 head done? how's it look? thanks.

import review - do you know a guy named jay who does motor work? lives near san diego. works with some guys from escondido.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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I have an H22 here at the shop that someone unknown ported.......I haven't flowed it for a while, but if memory serves me, it was pretty disapointing.

Somewhere in the 260CFM range, which for the size of the port seemed less than exciting. I'm sure that the port could do much better, just haven't had any reason to mess with it yet!
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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go to http://www.rsmachines.com
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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Hey Guys,
I read a great quote the other day that fits our work perfectly!

"If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, now would it?"
-Albert Einstien
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Head -- cool as hell to meet you today! its funny i just read this post becuase, we are apparently both in the same boat

Ben -- congrats on the win in baja, i couldnt agree more with you, the desert is the most grueling form of racing ive ever heard of. Whats funny was today when i was walking around the pits at atco, alot of cars cut corners and went with cheap Heims... they have no idea what they're in for. Had their cars been built by desert guys they would not have cut corners.

Suprdave -- i have a 35 spline mark williams 9" at my shop a bunch of 4 link stuff and nothing to put it on i gotta find somethin ...

i totally agree on the 2jz call, the parts for the RB26 are jsut too rare/hard to get in this country. even if they werent a well respected nissan guy said it best

"Skylines are fast becuase of their chassis, not the motor. If youre going drag racing, run a 2jz"
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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Hi gang,

OK, .. I'm taking a small brake from my backlog of porting, .. to hang with ya'll.

I'm working on a multi valve engine, again a road racing deal, .. and I'm starting to play with the valve seat top & bottom angles. Any one got stuff I should try??????

I've tried the old traditional stuff, .. 30 top, 45, & 60, 65, 70 bottoms, .. now I'm having a few cutters made with a radious on the bottom angles, .. but at $120 smacks a wack, ... ..I'd like some feed back before I make five or six cutters.

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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What type of head is it?

This is exactly the area I'm sort of "studying" right now on the bench so I'd be very interested in hearing what you find......

Keep good notes!
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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any of you guys mess with a duratech head?

I would think a 62 work well for a bottom cut what did it do comparing the 70 to the 65?

I tell you what I have got so busy in the last 2 weeks it's ridiculas, I wish I could make a clone of myself to help!
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Ben,

I have two projects going, .. a Yama R-1 5 valve and a Honda S2k, ..

I'm finding that the intake ports like a 60 to 70 without blending the sharp edge left after cutting on the Serdi. I found that if I blend the bottom angle into the port the flow went down through the entire range. I think a radious will not work, .. but I'll try it.

The exhaust seems to like a top angle, 45 and a radious on the bottom, ..
I'm going to try a few radiouses ( always wondered how to spell that)
I'll start with a 35 top, 45 seat and a radious starting at 65 to 90.

Newen will make anything you ask, .. .. so it's time to play.

Curtis
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