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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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You may wanna change some info in there..especially about the polishing. You dont want to let the polish dry to a haze, and I would do only a 2x2 Ft. area at a time. You want to polish until the product almost looks clear. When you polish, your slowly cutting down the finish with very fine abrasives which remove small layers of clearcoat(or paint on a single stage). Then the abrasives diminish away into rich oils that revitalize and nourish the paint which in-turn provides depth and gloss. Always start with the least abrasive product, and and then go from there. Not much actual polishing can be done by hand because your hand cannot move fast enough or generate enough heat to break most polishes down. Some nice products that many of you all can find Over the Counter and will not kill your wallet are the Meguiars Professional Mirror Glaze products. #83 Dual action cleaner polish, New reformulated Fine-Cut Cleaner, #80 Speed Glaze, #9 Swirl Remover, #7 Show car Glaze, #26 Yellow Hi-Tech Carnuba Wax, and NXT Synthetic.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may wanna change some info in there..especially about the polishing. You dont want to let the polish dry to a haze, and I would do only a 2x2 Ft. area at a time. You want to polish until the product almost looks clear. When you polish, your slowly cutting down the finish with very fine abrasives which remove small layers of clearcoat(or paint on a single stage). Then the abrasives diminish away into rich oils that revitalize and nourish the paint which in-turn provides depth and gloss. Always start with the least abrasive product, and and then go from there. Not much actual polishing can be done by hand because your hand cannot move fast enough or generate enough heat to break most polishes down. Some nice products that many of you all can find Over the Counter and will not kill your wallet are the Meguiars Professional Mirror Glaze products. #83 Dual action cleaner polish, New reformulated Fine-Cut Cleaner, #80 Speed Glaze, #9 Swirl Remover, #7 Show car Glaze, #26 Yellow Hi-Tech Carnuba Wax, and NXT Synthetic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No info needs to be changed. NOFX and I both use a formulated hand polish that uses very little diminishing abrasives, or abrasives of any kind. I would not use Dual action, Fine cut, Swirl Remover, or Speed glaze by hand. They're not designed for it.

"Apply small amount on clean terry cloth towel and rub thoroughly into surface. Remove excess with separate clean terry cloth towel and buff lightly"
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may wanna change some info in there..especially about the polishing. You dont want to let the polish dry to a haze, and I would do only a 2x2 Ft. area at a time. You want to polish until the product almost looks clear. When you polish, your slowly cutting down the finish with very fine abrasives which remove small layers of clearcoat(or paint on a single stage). Then the abrasives diminish away into rich oils that revitalize and nourish the paint which in-turn provides depth and gloss. Always start with the least abrasive product, and and then go from there. Not much actual polishing can be done by hand because your hand cannot move fast enough or generate enough heat to break most polishes down. Some nice products that many of you all can find Over the Counter and will not kill your wallet are the Meguiars Professional Mirror Glaze products. #83 Dual action cleaner polish, New reformulated Fine-Cut Cleaner, #80 Speed Glaze, #9 Swirl Remover, #7 Show car Glaze, #26 Yellow Hi-Tech Carnuba Wax, and NXT Synthetic.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is specifically a *hand* detailing therad. Therefore... the tips are for *hand* detailing. I know you can only polish so much by hand, but nonetheless, this is a *hand* detailing thread. Most car owners are not willing to just go out and buy a decent buffer in order to keep their car clean.

I would argue that for many people it's a better idea to get their car detailed professionally instead of buying a buffer and using it on their paint. Buffers can do massive amounts of damage when put into inexperienced hands. I know I wouldn't want someone learning on my car.

I know what polishes do. This thread isn't meant to explain in depth how everything works.

Some of my products of choice (for comparision I guess):
3M Perfect-It II Rubbing Compound
Meguiar's pro Heavy-Cut Cleaner
Meguiar's Pro Swirl Remover
Meguiar's Hand Polish
Meguiar's Pro Show Car Glaze
Meguiar's Pro Hi-Tech Yellow Wax
Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax
Meguiar's Polish High Gloss (Marine)
Meguiar's Pure Wax (Marine)

The marine line products I use are for use on gel-coated carbon fiber parts.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would do only a 2x2 Ft. area at a time. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...Do a panel at a time...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Set time depends on the specific product. Always read the directions on the package of each product you use.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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I c...So what polishes are you using by hand, Scratch X??...Or by polishing are you referring to a pure polish, such as Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish?
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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I just listed my polishes.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I c...So what polishes are you using by hand, Scratch X??...Or by polishing are you referring to a pure polish, such as Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't let either of those touch my paint.

And if those are products you prefer ... then I'd appreciate you not giving advice in this thread.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wouldn't let either of those touch my paint.

And if those are products you prefer ... then I'd appreciate you not giving advice in this thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Considering this is a detailing thread for people on honda-tech, I'm sure under 5% of these people are using some other sort of Products that arent available OTC. That being said, as the title suggest, by hand, one of the only OTC polishes you will find for use by hand is Scratch X, while Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish is one of the few PURE polishes available OTC. I could go on for days about which products are the best or which I prefer, but for Criteria in this thread, those fit exactly that. Though scratch X and Meguairs Deep Crystal Polish arent at the top of my list, they arent bad products, especially for OTC, more specifically The Deep Crystal Polish.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Considering this is a detailing thread for people on honda-tech, I'm sure under 5% of these people are using some other sort of Products that arent available OTC. That being said, as the title suggest, by hand, one of the only OTC polishes you will find for use by hand is Scratch X, while Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish is one of the few PURE polishes available OTC. I could go on for days about which products are the best or which I prefer, but for Criteria in this thread, those fit exactly that. Though scratch X and Meguairs Deep Crystal Polish arent at the top of my list, they arent bad products, especially for OTC, more specifically The Deep Crystal Polish. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Meguiars Hand Polish, a fantastic pure polish, is available OTC at any body and paint supply store, and is also available to order at Napa autoparts. almost all of 3M's line is available OTC at Napa as well.

Deep Crystal = Suck
Scratch X = Ubersuck.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering this is a detailing thread for people on honda-tech, I'm sure under 5% of these people are using some other sort of Products that arent available OTC. That being said, as the title suggest, by hand, one of the only OTC polishes you will find for use by hand is Scratch X, while Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish is one of the few PURE polishes available OTC. I could go on for days about which products are the best or which I prefer, but for Criteria in this thread, those fit exactly that. Though scratch X and Meguairs Deep Crystal Polish arent at the top of my list, they arent bad products, especially for OTC, more specifically The Deep Crystal Polish. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Everything I listed I bought OTC. I've never orderd ANY detailing related products over the internet or by mail.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Meguiars Hand Polish, a fantastic pure polish, is available OTC at any body and paint supply store, and is also available to order at Napa autoparts. almost all of 3M's line is available OTC at Napa as well.

Deep Crystal = Suck
Scratch X = Ubersuck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1793881

/\ hmm nice thread. To be giving such biased and critical opinions on so many products, you sure dont seem like you know much about whats going on with detailing. Its people like you who need to lay off the websites like Autopia with your "Hand detailing skills". One minute you dont know anything about detailing, and the next your a a veteran because you read an article on some forum. I better leave this thread alone as well as all of you Professional "Hand" detailers out there.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1793881

/\ hmm nice thread. To be giving such biased and critical opinions on so many products, you sure dont seem like you know much about whats going on with detailing. Its people like you who need to lay off the websites like Autopia with your "Hand detailing skills". One minute you dont know anything about detailing, and the next your a a veteran because you read an article on some forum. I better leave this thread alone as well as all of you Professional "Hand" detailers out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you not read the part where I said "I don't ever deal with fresh paint" ?

You need to treat brand new paint differently than cured paint. If the paint can't breathe, it will never harden, thus why you don't wax over new paint. My girlfriend wrote the ******* article. I live with her. I detail with her. I've been hand detailing cars since I was old enough to hold a rag.

I am a veteran.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8tunerman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1793881

/\ hmm nice thread. To be giving such biased and critical opinions on so many products, you sure dont seem like you know much about whats going on with detailing. Its people like you who need to lay off the websites like Autopia with your "Hand detailing skills". One minute you dont know anything about detailing, and the next your a a veteran because you read an article on some forum. I better leave this thread alone as well as all of you Professional "Hand" detailers out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude, suck a dick.

If you have such incredible detailing knowledge, go make another thread and share your skill. Don't come in here and bitch about posts that one of the other posters in here posted in another thread.

If you have a problem with a member, Instant Message him or AIM him or something. Don't just fill up other threads with you bitching at another guy for "not being a veteran".

I detail. I detail by hand. I've been doing this for about five years now. I posted what I know to help other people who don't want to deal with buying a buffer and just want to do some decent backyard detailing.

So he didn't know about FRESH paint care. Way different than the paint most people deal with.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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awsome write up
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Can we consider this Sticky material? Good stuff, and local!
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Props for a very detailed write-up.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Awesome. Would you consider some side work when spring rolls around?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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just wanted to share some pics... I followed NOFX instructions

nice write up by the way



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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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you should post up some direct sun pics.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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will do
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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thanks for posting info. NOFX and Eran..

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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*runs out to buy carwash materials*
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nice
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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nice write up .... what state r u guys in ?
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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good info!
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wow! NOFX great jobs man. i am in need of a good clay bar or buff or somethin. what part of ny u from&gt;
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