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Old 01-31-2008, 01:17 PM
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kinda want some ideas or opinions on what i should do with my dc4. no, i dont have a budget but basically i just want an idea.

i dont want to ls-vtec because its not really reliable.
its either i turbo this **** or i'll just swap in a gsr
Old 01-31-2008, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: swap or turbo? (jxnguyen)

i was gonna do ls turbo then the week before i was putting the kit on timing chain snapped and bent a couple valves so i was just like screw it sold the turbo kit and im about to buy a gsr but i read alot on LS turbo theres some sik crazy fast LS turbo cars on here you should search and look around. good luck with deciding
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmjunkie8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the week before i was putting the kit on timing chain snapped </TD></TR></TABLE>

Timming Belt or do you have a K?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jxnguyen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont want to ls-vtec because its not really reliable.
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How-To build a reliable ls/vtec
This helps too - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1812388

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Default Re: swap or turbo? (PrinceAli132)

I would do turbo, maybe more money though.
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What do you want to do with your car? What kind of whp are you looking for? etc.

Answer those questions and that should better help what route you would take.

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrinceAli132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Timming Belt or do you have a K?

How-To build a reliable ls/vtec
This helps too - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1812388

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didnt know there was a difference but guess i just learned somethin, the timing belt snapped. Either way it sucked
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Default Re: swap or turbo? (jxnguyen)

If you're going to do a gsr swap, you might as well just sell the ls and buy a gsr, it'd be easier, and possibly cheaper in the end.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdeadman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're going to do a gsr swap, you might as well just sell the ls and buy a gsr, it'd be easier, and possibly cheaper in the end. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well i picked up my car for pretty cheap and i was planning to do some stuff with the car. i just found a few gsr's for a good deal but its kind of expensive. but in the end im going to have to fork out extra $$ either way

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrinceAli132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you want to do with your car? What kind of whp are you looking for? etc.

Answer those questions and that should better help what route you would take.

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yeah i've been stumbling upon some questions lately and iono what to do that's why i came here and asked you guys for a couple opinions to help me with my decision.

thanks guys for all the opinions
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Default Re: swap or turbo? (jxnguyen)

the turbo is an awesome idea for the ls vtec, but if you have the money look into a possible k20 swap which is pretty direct. But the gsr engine is prob the best way to go, look for a cheep gsr with body damage on craigslist.com
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jxnguyen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well i picked up my car for pretty cheap and i was planning to do some stuff with the car.
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I'm pretty sure everyone alot of people will agree what to do here : BOOST IT
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Default Re: swap or turbo? (jxnguyen)

LS-Vtec turbo?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jxnguyen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well i picked up my car for pretty cheap and i was planning to do some stuff with the car. i just found a few gsr's for a good deal but its kind of expensive. but in the end im going to have to fork out extra $$ either way


yeah i've been stumbling upon some questions lately and iono what to do that's why i came here and asked you guys for a couple opinions to help me with my decision.

thanks guys for all the opinions
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Ok, if you don't know what you want to do then how the hell are we supposed to give you advice? My suggestion to you is read, and while you're at it, read alot.

In addition to your stupid initial post, turbo'ing a car and swapping motors with one that provides a power difference of 30HP is a night and day difference. Before you start to , try answering the question about what you want to do. You might actually get somewhere.
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Default Re: swap or turbo? (StockDC2)

You'd be better off with a LS-T

GSRs are gay.

I really would recommend going that route, because if you pop your LS you wont have to spend alot of money to replace it.

Plus, don't buy any car with high mileage on the motor and expect to turbo and romp all the time, you'll end its life.

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go with the turbo.. your going to end up with great power either way... its an integra!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2ndchirp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with the turbo.. your going to end up with great power either way... its an integra!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

So that means its slow.
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Default Re: swap or turbo? (jxnguyen)

LS turbo is great you get a lower compression ratio than a gsr and boosting to 12-15psi is safer i have a b18b and thinking of boosting; if you go with gsr swap then build internals
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i love my ls-t motor.
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lsvtec turbo!


don't forget them arp rod bolts!
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TURBO.... it shouldn't even be a discussion.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hdflow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS turbo is great you get a lower compression ratio than a gsr and boosting to 12-15psi is safer i have a b18b and thinking of boosting; if you go with gsr swap then build internals </TD></TR></TABLE>


Most common LS turbos without any internal work only boost around 10-11 psi and thats with very fine tuning.

The most common LS-T build involves ARP rod bolts because thats a focally weak point for the B18A/B.

So common sense would be to not boost at 12-14 psi on a stock LS, as more than likely you'll ruin the motor.

And yes, the LS does boost well but so does the GSR.
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