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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Thanks to Joel for putting the graphs together. (Joel, I got the run numbers backwards) These runs were made 8/1 in about 102 degree weather

The Blue graph is the current 4-2-1 that Corey is running and the Red is the old 4-1 that 2point6 has now. All that is on the car is the header with 2-1/2" tubing and an 18" long resonator that dumps at the end of the tunnel, stock ECU, CAI and lightened fylwheel. Corey can update if I'm off.

This 4-2-1 configuration beats the 4-1 upto 4900 and then from 5800 on. It looses in that 900 rpm between. This is the area that I'm trying to correct with the next version. The current 4-2-1 doesn't like the VTEC crossover too much. Here are some comparisons.

4-2-1 4-1
4000 95.8 whp 92.0
7200 180.2 177.9

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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Dang Dave, good work! I forgot, but does the new 4-2-1 bolt on w/o the cutting the sub frame? What kind of collector are you using?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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you want me to fix it/change it? Did you shrink it, cause I thought it was bigger than that?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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Nice numbers I didn't expect it from the 4-2-1. How will a hi-flow cat and the rest of the piping plus muffler effect those numbers...guesstimate.
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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wow! how big are the primaries?
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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wow! how big are the primaries?
Big enough that i can bearly get my hand around one Dave knows the exact specs, and I havn't changed the car at all since the dyno, so its putting out the same HP..

I was wondering where those dyno's were the other day..
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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wow! how big are the primaries?
The primaries start out at the same diameter of the DC Sports secondaries.
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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Did you make the Graph smaller?

Anyways I fixed the titles and have a bigger pic
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks again. No I didn't do anything to the size it just came up that way.
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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what was the baseline before the header? numbers look good!
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Thanks again. No I didn't do anything to the size it just came up that way.
Really that's weird cause the size I just posted is the size I sent you....maybe imagestation is shrinking it.

This is the header and an intake only right? Or some other work
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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what was the baseline before the header? numbers look good!
We never got to do a baseline with this engine

Yes, just header, CAI and lightened flywheel, nothing else.
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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why is 2point6's car only making 180whp?
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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why is 2point6's car only making 180whp?
Those are SAE numbers, and they are from Corey's Prelude, Honda318dx (?) on the board. 2point6 has the 4-1 now, but this was when it was on Corey's car
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 08:11 AM
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ahh, i see.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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Cost?
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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Default .... making headers ?


I just saw this thread, are you guys making headers for 5thgen? sorry, missed the original context. Youd bring a smile to my face if thats the case!!!!!!!! exhaust tunning is somthing thats fascinated me since i started working on cars (just over a year ago, but ya gotta start sometime...)

lmk
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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The only fitment issues I'm working towards is clearing the sub frame with no or vey little modification. The collector will be 2-1/2" so the cat and B pipe will require modifcation for either the 4th or 5th generations. It will NOT be a bolt on piece.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:15 AM
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sorry, still confused, are you making a head-to-downpipe-ala-spoon'sH22header? or are you constructing a full head-to-cat piece?

let me know if your planning on producing somthing, i was going to do a header next, my plan was to get and OBX stainless (dont laugh, same as DC and costs $160) and then get a 2"- 2.5" collector from burns stainless, and then have it fit to a new cat and then to my brullen exhaust, all welded, no flanges. BUT if your working on a whole setup id rather wait. LMK and good luck with the company!!!!!

-b
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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I just bought a MUGEN H22A header... how much better are yours compared to the one i just got.... if so i will buy one... my motor is a 95 prelude VTEC.

do you accept trade in's and cash ? or i could sell here...
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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Thanks

sorry, still confused, are you making a head-to-downpipe-ala-spoon'sH22header? or are you constructing a full head-to-cat piece?
I'm not concerned where the collector ends. A 2-1/2" cat wil bolt to the header and then the cat back will start from that point.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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ahh, i see...


any plans for production/pricing? keap me posted please.

happy tunning
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