Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold?

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Default Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold?

People have been telling me that I can't run a 4bolt exhuast housing wth a cast manifold?

I coudlnt understand the reason why this is not possible.

I do want to keep AC though.

Any light on this subject is greatly appriciated.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:45 AM
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Default Re: Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold? (integlspwr2k)

The cast manis are desgned to be used w/ a 5 bolt turbo. On a DOHC you can't turn the turbo w/ the compressor on the passenger side using a 4 bolt turbo, it would never bolt to the head due to the turbo hitting the block. 5 bolt housing is different.
(On a SOHC you can use a 4 bolt turbo and cast mani)
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold? (Autoworks)

i have a ugr cast manifold + silver surfer turbo

if i remove my accessories, i would more than fit a 4" DP!
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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sorry i mis read the question

most log manifolds are designed for 5bolt exhaust housing turbos.

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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold? (Autoworks)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The cast manis are desgned to be used w/ a 5 bolt turbo. On a DOHC you can't turn the turbo w/ the compressor on the passenger side using a 4 bolt turbo, it would never bolt to the head due to the turbo hitting the block. 5 bolt housing is different.
(On a SOHC you can use a 4 bolt turbo and cast mani)</TD></TR></TABLE>So the 5-bolt DP forces the exhaust exit away from the block? That's what I'm getting from your explaination. The 4-bolt design would put it too close to the block? Got pics?

I'm wondering because I'm trying to decide what route I want to go (cast or tubular manifold) Thanks.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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Default Re: Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold? (blaze the chemi)

4 bolt and 5 bolt exhaust housing turbos are differently shaped.

most cast manifolds are designed to be used with 5 bolt exhaust housings.

i have a custom built turbo with a cast manifold.
i still have Ac and PS.

i made a spacer to bring the turbo closer to the front of the car so everything clears.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the 5-bolt DP forces the exhaust exit away from the block? That's what I'm getting from your explaination. The 4-bolt design would put it too close to the block? Got pics?

I'm wondering because I'm trying to decide what route I want to go (cast or tubular manifold) Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The 5 bolt housing is just shaped differently than the 4 bolt. In most cases it's really not a big deal, but when using a cast manifold (Blox, UGR, whatever) then it is. The compressor side won't clear at all on a 4 bolt setup.

This is the best side angle shot I have on this computer of a 5 bolt housing.
(It is a .63A/R Turbonetics housing)


Same setup w/ an SC61 E cover (the webbing has not been notched on this block, it would need to be notched to clear a turbo this size)
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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pics rule!
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Default Re: Why Can't I Run a 4bolt Downpipe With a Cast Manifold? (b16a4)

messy but all i had a few years ago was a flux core!

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