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Old 03-05-2002, 03:09 AM
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I ordered a hondata stage 3b yesterday. I'm running the GReddy kit on a single cam vtec setup. How good did your cars run with just the base map, I know its supposed to be safe but any hp/tq gains w/just the base map? Also anyone using the launch control or full throttle shifting...any quarter mile time shaved off by this or is it more for consistancy? Cant wait for my ish to get here, any info welcome, good or bad, thanks.
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Old 03-05-2002, 03:17 AM
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i just had my car dynoed and i put down 229whp and 190ft. lbs, of torque!!! out of a single cam with about 12plds of boost. it could have been more but i had 440cc injectors and at 50psi of static fuel pressure my injector duty cycle was at 100% at 7500 rpm. i would post the sheet but i cant get the pic thing to work.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sohckid)

My original JRSC setup did not work too well with the base maps, but most of the probs I had should not be an issue with a turbo system. It should work pretty well.

But if you are getting a Hondata why not just have one of the turbo maps that they have already tuned put on the chip.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sohckid)

My base map for a sohc turbo sucked. It might depend on who/where you get it from though. I have the drag kit too. I would advise you to make sure you get it tuned before running it hard.
Old 03-05-2002, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sohckid)

yeah sorry man i didnt really answer your question last time....
my base map really sucked also. it was really lean, the plugs stayed consitanly white. i had an a/f of about 15.5-16.2 on the wide band on the first pull of the dyno.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (TurbodCX)

Whoa damn, that is pretty bad even for a base map. Also, about the guy with 229hp at 12Psi. You have 8:1 pistons? I think that is robbing some power right there. 9:1 would be much more correct for your application, IMHO.
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yeah i am using 8:1 but with this setup i can safely put 15-20 psi on my motor with no probs, (less likely to detonate) and make mad horesepower.... i used this setup for personal preferance.
thanks for your opinion though..
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (TurbodCX)

It's all good, I was not ripping you. I guess I just wondered if 12Psi is all you were going to run with that CR. Now that you say you'll go much higher I can see why the real low CR.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (TurbodCX)

You have to understand that the base maps arent meant to be raced on.
They are meant to get your car to the tuner.
Unless someone is giving you a previously tuned map, thats what its meant for.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sgT)

I understand that the base maps are only meant to be used temparily untill you can get on a dyno, but the closest hondata tuner is a 5 hour drive away, I hope I have better luck with my base map, cause its a long haul from chicago to detroit.


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Old 03-05-2002, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sohckid)

You going to Payn Tech also? I got an even longer drive then you!
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Yeah I got in on the one at groupbuycenter.com. I think I'm heading up there the week of the 17th, if I can get it installed and put my car back together. This all should be worth it in the end though. I think the base map I'm getting is from a d15 with a hks turbo...I have a d16 and GReddy turbo, its a diff engine and turbo, I'm screwed.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sohckid)

im probabyl going to have the same problem you guys are having with the base maps once i get it installed.
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I got a decent base map from Payn technologies. It idled fine and i was able to run 7psi of boost with no problems for a month before i hit the dyno. At the dyno i got 203whp with the base map and 7psi of boost.
It really all depends on who's base map you get and what car it was made for. When i doubt, turn up your idle fuel pressure to make sure that you'll have enough fuel under boost.

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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (dlplayboy)

I think the deal is that the maps are necessarily configured for your fuel system.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (TurbodCX)

hey turbodCX, what is the difference between the JDM sohc and the us d16z6? Just curious.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (sohckid)

is there not a turbo map that was made for a stock LS turbo setup using a DRAG3 kit? they should have one.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (dlplayboy)

i'm running 8.2:1 C/R on my D16Y8, its low yeah, but its great for daily driven high boost, and the car is still reasonably drivable when driving without boost, its really not as low as you think it is
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (nathan's boosted civic)

18psi!
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8psi, badly tuned.
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Default Re: Quick Question for Hondata users (nathan's boosted civic)

how much are you guys paying for tuning?
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