mkriebs

But you didn't expect that to break an engine in, right? There are differences in lubing an engine, checking compression, and breaking it in.

mikeymcm

thats why i didnt say we used it to break in an engine.

mkriebs

I know you didn;'t say that, I was just trying to clear up the point a bit.

Desir Performance

Lol you don't know me or know what I know, and i see you have selective vision when reading. I'm simply stating that this would be a useful tool for some people when assembling a motor and checking before install. And when i stated knock i was referring to physical knock not detonation.(ie if you did a line hone, step deck, different tolerances,etc....) I don't want to go into the whole ordeal about breaking in rings cause there's many different view on that. I'm not going to get into a war over a topic that has been coverd soooo many times on this board. Maswork keep up the good work and good luck on your idea.

mkriebs

Desir Performance

Here's some reading for you. The different opinions on seating piston rings. it's like a ******* everybody has one. and top fuel cars keep showing us different all the time in the pits. Efi 101 lol


http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm, http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti...rformance.aspx
http://www.racetep.com/totalsealframe.html
http://www.mattituck.com/articles/engbrkin.htm
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/steps-seat-piston-rings-1144053/
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive...p/t-84232.html
http://www.mattituck.com/articles/engbrkin.htm

Mugencrxsir1

Apparentley those of you who are knocking Mazworx racing doesn't know of there accomplishments... Just go to youtube and other venues and look up there builds!

I dig it fellas, nice job!

TinyT

hey now, lets not glorify that, I know people that are efi 101 certified and couldnt tune an safc hahah

mkriebs

Exactly my point. Point being, to tout accomplishments is all good, but if you don't understand whats actually going on, its not worth junk.

But, back to topic: I am not doubting Mazwork's work or knowledge, but there is no way a ring can properly seat without expanding from heat and being shifted by cyl pressure.

N1 Andy

The only point of this I can see is priming the oil pump. Which is totally unneccesary to have a high tech engine stand to do that for you, I opt to pull the ecu fuse or injector clip and crank over a new build until it starts creating oil pressure.

Like has been said before, if you're worried about bearing tolerances being off and getting rod knocks or excessive metal debris, maybe you should consider a different hobby rather then engine building.

And as said before, You can't seat the rings at 280rpm's with no load or heat.

I can't imagine why a shop that builds such insane cars and has such an amazing history with racing would think this is a cool idea....

Make an engine stand that you can run the motor through its rpm range and create load on it and maybe then I could see a point. But wait, they already have that...its called an engine dyno...

runsfromdacops

even the big boys have dumb ideas some times.

putting a tranny with a starter on the motor will do the same thing, and even then its a dumb idea

0MazworxRacing

We only did this to make the sure the motor has proper oiling. There's no break-in, no seating of the rings etc.

tepid1

I think it's a great idea. I like to check things for clearances becore I spin it up.

Great work guys!

B16CRXT

Didnt read every reply but don't you need combustion to break a motor in?

eksessiv

Maybe you should next time

B16CRXT

DOH!!