Here's my original thread that didn't really answer my question: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1818119

Basically I have a GSR tranny that makes the shifter sit crooked, leaning toward the driver (it's not the linkage, I replaced w/known good linkage and same thing). Shifting through the gears, everything works fine (at low RPMs at least, but I'm breaking in my clutch so I couldn't take it too high or shift fast). When downshifting into 3rd, no matter how low the RPMs, it'll grind 95% of the time. Downshifting into 4th, it won't go into gear easily, and I have to either pull on the shifter and wiggle to make it pop in, or tilt the shifter a little to the right from it's crooked nuetral position before pulling it into 4th, but it doesn't grind. Same 4th gear problem with the car off. The tranny never pops out of gear on its own. Please help me figure out what it could be because I'm trying to figure out if I should fix it or sell as is. TIA

 

I'll chime in when i have more time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll chime in when i have more time</TD></TR></TABLE>

Perfect

 

Why not get your money back? He lied to you it obviously needs rebuild -- worn shifter forks? changer assembly? and most likely beat up blocking rings & syncros


Modified by Danny_EJ at 9:54 PM 12/9/2006

 

I paid $350 for the tranny and a B16 engine w/bent valves so it was dirt cheap. I'd rather not try to get my money back because the guy I bought it from is always out of town, and I don't want to deal with him, and can sell it all as is for $350 easily, or more. I'm just trying to decide what to do with the tranny (fix and use myself, or sell as is), and the head (fix and sell w/block, or sell as is). Do you have any nice big diagrams of the tranny internals? The ones on hondaautomotiveparts.com and barancoacuraparts.com are unclear and hard to see. I don't really know much about the internals of the tranny, other than the very basics, so I'm learning.

 

bump

 

ttt because I really really want to know and will keep bumping til I get an answer

 

I think you should have the tranny rebuilt... Have someone take it apart for you and inspect it.

 

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Are you just saying that just because, or do you have an idea what could be wrong and how much it'd cost? If it was to get rebuilt, then I'd probably do it myself. If there was something I needed help on, I could get my dad to help (he used to be a mechanic). But I don't want to rebuild it if it's going to cost me the same or more as a good tranny would cost.

 

well if you say it's not the linkage then it's in the tranny, take it apart and look. let us know what you find.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRay13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you say it's not the linkage then it's in the tranny, take it apart and look. let us know what you find. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well yea I figured that much, but I was hoping someone on H-T could help out to figure out what it could be before I take it apart so that if it's expensive to fix, I could just sell as is and not waste my time (I'm a poor 16-yr-old HS student making 6.50/hr so I can't throw wads of cash into my car at a time). But I guess maybe I will just take it apart and try to see myself what it is... and learn how to work on trannies internally in the process.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatch_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..... I swapped the linkage out for known good linkage, same thing. And if I tilt the shifter just a little to the passenger-side, it seems to go perfectly into 4th gear without the problem described earlier. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so changing the linkage it fixed one of the problems?? if so how did your first linkage get messed up? and how are your mounts?

 

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so changing the linkage it fixed one of the problems?? if so how did your first linkage get messed up? and how are your mounts? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, swapping the linkage didn't fix anything at all, the same exact things were happening. Everything that happened with the old linkage, also happened with the 'new' linkage.

My rear mount is torn (I think it was already starting to tear and I finished it off somehow while swapping the tranny) but that's not the problem because a) the problems still happen even when the engine is not moving/wobbling around b) 4th gear didn't go in well even at a standstill and also with the car off c) even with the torn rear mount, my stock tranny shifts perfect just like it did when the mount was good.

 

when your mounts are dramatically degraded the position of your engine in the bay has changed. The engine doesn't have to be moving around for it to affect it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Heron of Alexandria &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when your mounts are dramatically degraded the position of your engine in the bay has changed. The engine doesn't have to be moving around for it to affect it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's only the rear mount, and like I said, the stock tranny works perfectly fine even with that torn mount. There's no way that it could have caused those problems on the GSR tranny just from a torn mount.

*edit - ^your for sale link in your sig doesn't work

 

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*edit - ^your for sale link in your sig doesn't work </TD></TR></TABLE>

oh snap! ....thanks and bump for answer

 

bump

 

okay, now that I have more than 5 seconds.

grinds only in high rpms = worn synchros


basically, you just need to rebuild it. You can spend hours trying to figure it out, or just take it apart and see what's up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay, now that I have more than 5 seconds.

grinds only in high rpms = worn synchros


basically, you just need to rebuild it. You can spend hours trying to figure it out, or just take it apart and see what's up </TD></TR></TABLE>

It grinds 3rd gear, at ALL rpms, even at 2k rpms. 4th doesn't grind, just has trouble going in.

 

shaft bearings. could be worn needle bearings on gears or synchros.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHFAST94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shaft bearings. could be worn needle bearings on gears or synchros.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm could you explain a little more? Do you really know what you're talking about when it comes to trannies (not necessarily doubting you, but when it comes to technical things like this on H-T a lot of people just give an answer that they might've 'heard' about or 'read' about without really knowing firsthand)? I do think the tranny has a bad mainshaft bearing because it whined without the clutch pushed in, and stopped when I pushed it up, and that's what my dad said he thinks it is also.