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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Default LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues

Ok so I'm about to drop the VTEC head and I'm thnking cake.
But then I put on the OEM headgasket...and #$#$@@$%!!~! the hole is too small?!?!
WTF!

Is this normal? Do I have to get the wg hole enlarged now? Damn it! GE said no drilling.



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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Did you buy the complete GE kit, or just the dowels? I bought the kit (not installed yet) -- it may be that the gasket that GE sells has been modified to work with the dowels.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boofster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so I'm about to drop the VTEC head and I'm thnking cake.
But then I put on the OEM headgasket...and #$#$@@$%!!~! the hole is too small?!?!
WTF!

Is this normal? Do I have to get the wg hole enlarged now? Damn it! GE said no drilling.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have use the GE dowels with and oem gasket with no problems..

bump for info
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (Boofster)

i had the same problem so i just bored the holes out like as if i didnt buy the kit.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (1993sir05)

the ge kit comes with a vtec hg. with the dowels enlarged
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (mmuller)

So how do i enlarge the holes? Just drill? Seems like it may offset the gasket

Also, I was just looking at the c-speed picture and they say to relocate the dowels to the outer holes on the intake side. I don't think that works. Mine line up with the thick part up on the outer holes, exhaust side. Is this right?
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boofster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So how do i enlarge the holes? Just drill? Seems like it may offset the gasket

Also, I was just looking at the c-speed picture and they say to relocate the dowels to the outer holes on the intake side. I don't think that works. Mine line up with the thick part up on the outer holes, exhaust side. Is this right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

im pretty sure the stepped dowels are for that reason, so that you can put them in the right locations.
the hg. should be bored to fit the big part of the dowels
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (mmuller)

Did you contact GE before this post?
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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well, i pm'd but they're not answering....

I figured SOMEONE on H-T has to have LS/VTEC setup with dowels...c'mon
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boofster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i pm'd but they're not answering....

I figured SOMEONE on H-T has to have LS/VTEC setup with dowels...c'mon</TD></TR></TABLE>


i got a kit sitting in front of me, did yours bring a vtec hg?
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (mmuller)

No kit. I just got the dowels by themselves and an OEM hg. We have a local deal on OEM parts. The GE HG costs ~$85 and local OEM is ~$65. They should say that you can't use a stock (or Cometic either) HG with these so that it would justify the extra $$ to buy their hg. They should not advertise this as the "no drill solution".
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Just drill...http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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weak
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boofster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">weak </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (Boofster)

i paid $20for my ge dowel pins, where did you see them for $85
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Had to trim the headgasket. Should have got a Cometic made for LS/VTECs.

Dowels fit just fine with fat part towards the head.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (Boofster)

hmm i was just wondering the about the same thing, so you do have to drill out the headgasket right? i thought it was a non-drill type of thing, im doing a 20 right now and ill be pretty pissed off if i have to drill, mind as well go with the OG set up instead of wasting 20 bucks on another set of pins....let me know
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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I have done 5 ls/vtecs and on the ones we used those type of dowel pins i had to use a cometic head gasket because the wholes are inlarged for the dowwl pins.I never like drilling the holes on a oem or any head gasket, because the wrong move and u can mess the head gasket up or cut your damn head apart.But every time i have used or have seen somebody use those dowel pins u can't use the oem head gaskets unless the holes have been enlarged.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (Boofster)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boofster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i pm'd but they're not answering....

I figured SOMEONE on H-T has to have LS/VTEC setup with dowels...c'mon</TD></TR></TABLE>

Never received any PM, and I check them everyday. Anyways, when we say NO DRILL, that measn that there is nothing to drill on the block or head. The gasket, unless you buy the kit or a gasket from us, is up to you. There is nothing we can do about that except to offer a gasket that has the dowels pre-enlarged for LS/VTEC! So we did just that. Sorry for the confusion, hope everything works out for you
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC GE Dowel Pin issues (GoldenEagleMfg.com)

yea i had to drill it out a little bit, but i didnt use a drill i used a diamond tipped sand bit, alot easier and wont damage the gasket or skin! good luck!
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