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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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What would cause engine missing, and make the tach and speedo bounce around at the same time??

I was sure it was the ICM, so I replaced it. Problem not solved, $150 gone.

I looked in the helms for what causes the engine to miss, but all the causes listed, besides the ICM, couldn't make all the problems I am having.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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possibly the ignitor. could be the alternator going bad. what else is it doing if anything and when does it do it?
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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check you grounds?

(maybe?)

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 06:16 PM
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Ok, I could try the ignitor. I heard a bad alternator could cause my tach bouncing, but I don't know how it would make the engine miss.

Very Rarely does the tach bounce around at idle. Idle seems smooth, but it did kill the other day while ideling. When I hit the gas at all, the tach seems to go crazy, and the engine misses.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: I could use some help. (HXMan)

On some of the older models (pre 89) the ecu does receive a power signal via the alternator, of course most components receive the same power source, but the ECM will be the first to respond and throw a code indicating ecm signal failure..

Is the car actually mis-firing? and is the tach in synch with the motor failing? I mean if the tach jumps up 250 rpm's you will hear a significant idle increase...

Ignitor controls tach and fuel injector circuits and may be worth considering...
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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The tach is not in synch with engine rpms when it jumps. I can be crusing at 30mph in 5th, and my tach reads 7500 rpms. Then it will go to normal, then bounce, and so on...
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Ok... If the check engine light is not illuminated then I would expect a bad tachometer here... its not so easy to determine without a proper scan tool, but if the tach jumps while holding the gas pedal steady then the tach is outta whack...
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 11:36 PM
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I, like Tinkerbell suspect bad grounds here. Check the engine grounds, valve cover, battery to car to tranny, and the ground on the thermostat housing.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 02:10 AM
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check you grounds?

(maybe?)

t..

HAHAHA I know what this is!!!!!!!!!

Check your ground at the thermostat housing, and also check the resistance between the (-) battery terminal and the block. It should be less that 0.3 ohms anywhere on the block. If not, then you have a bad main ground from the tranny to the frame....





EDIT*** DOH, Ryan beat me again! Argh...............


[Modified by B18C-EJ1, 3:11 AM 8/14/2002]
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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You guys are the ****!! I will have to try what you said today!

Thanks.

One question, how do I check my grounds?? Just see if they are still connected?
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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With a DMM (Digital Mulit-Meter) or Volt - Ohm meter.
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 07:24 AM
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TTT.

HX, you fix it?
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Well...I fixed it today. I was removing my 450cc injectors because they were sold, and I was going to check the grounds as well. The ground connecting by the thermostat was loose. I loosened it some more to see what that would do, and the fuel pump wouldn't even prime, and the check engine light was really dim.

So I tightend the nut, put the stock ecu and injectors back in and boom, its all good.

That loose ******* ground wire cost me $150, and not driving my car for like 2 weeks.

I am happy it is fixed though.
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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good old grounds - simple, yet such a notoriously problematic area...

glad its all better

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Thanks man, GROUNDS SUCK!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 01:21 AM
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Check the engine grounds, valve cover, battery to car to tranny, and the ground on the thermostat housing. 8-14-02
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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Default Re: I could use some help. (kinesistech)

Dude its your distirbuter, I pretty sure because my dads old accord was doing that and so he replaced it and it fixed the problem, it jumps from like 1000-6000 then drops bck down right> yeah those are the same things that were happning to my dad. It took a while for him to figure out what was going on.

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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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I fixed it guys. It was a loose ground.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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I fixed it guys. It was a loose ground.
SWEET!!
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