Well sure if they're the same or similar price. GSR swaps are relatively pricey though.

 

gsr swap around here is about 4500... i can get this 1.7 longblock for $600 and P61 ecu for $100.. I dont want the tranny he is selling so thats why its cheaper.

 

...and I'm looking at assembling a stroked b16a2 for $482.50 w/o tranny. I don't think you'll find a healthy b18c for anything similar.

 

B18C That's all i can say!!!!!

 

B17 all the way! Be original, there are alot less b17 swaps driving around than b18c's.

 

But if you are going for speed which one will be faster stock vs. stock??? I guess you're right if it doesn't matter but the 2 DOHC VTEC motors that I hate the most are the B16/17A... I dunno, the B18C 1.58 R/S is good enough for me... Good torque and winds just fine... Just my opinion... Peace

 

The b16a w/ it's near perfect geometry would be a fantastic engine, were it not for the lousy stroke...77mm. That's where the b17s 81.4mm stroke comes in. Does it have as much low end torque as a b18c? Nope, but it does retain a great r/s ratio of 1.68:1. Which says rev me higher. It's a great comprimise between the b16 & b18c, and if they weren't so rare you'd see allot more of them utilized in high end N/A and FI setups. I'd much rather sleeve a b17 to 84-86mm than go with a ls/vtec or crv/tec with it's yucky r/s ratio, poorly lubed crank, extra oil lines, and generally lower reliability. Please don't give me that "if the ls/vtec is built right" garbage either, I ain't buyin'. A bored b17 or stroked & bored b16a should rev much much higher and be far more reliable w/ similar power numbers(though perhaps higher in the rev range) than ls/vtec.

The worst 2 Honda engines to my mind are both the b20s. I just don't care for the comprimise. To each his own however.


[Modified by TimoneX, 8:13 PM 1/27/2003]

 

I'd much rather sleeve a b17 to 84-86mm
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How much does sleeving cost?.... yet another interesting idea

 

GE charges $750 for sleeves. They can do 81-85mm for that price. Their godzilla sleeves are $850 and can be 81-86mm. A cheaper option would be Darton flanged sleeves. They're $48 each as I recall and can be bored to 83mm. The local machine shop quoted me $100/cylinder for install on this setup.

 

i like b17 more then b18