Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
#1
Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
not sure if this is the appropriate section for something like this but anyways,
i have a turbo d16z6 and just yesterday i noticed something unusual about the car when it idles.
For some time now I've had a lopey idle due to maybe a bad IACV...(im not cammed). Ive cleaned out my IACV in the past, which if i remember correctly fixed the issue for a good 3 days. I didnt bother replacing it since its quite expensive to get a new one and since i didnt think it was that much of a big deal..
Just yesterday i went to start the car and although it still idles completely normal on cold starts and drives completely fine, i can now hear a lot of popping on warm idle, especially when letting off the gas from 1500-2000rpm when coasting in neutral.. One thing i have observed is that when the lopey idle and/or popping occurs, my air/fuel ratio dial goes all the way to lean or just doesn't read anything at all...as opposed to reading 13-14 as it used to on normal idle...
I dont know if this has anything to do with it but this issue first appeared after i had fixed a leak from my fuel rail (which could have caused the boost cut i mentioned in a previous post). I put everything back on properly and my fuel pressure is still at a steady 60psi
i have a turbo d16z6 and just yesterday i noticed something unusual about the car when it idles.
For some time now I've had a lopey idle due to maybe a bad IACV...(im not cammed). Ive cleaned out my IACV in the past, which if i remember correctly fixed the issue for a good 3 days. I didnt bother replacing it since its quite expensive to get a new one and since i didnt think it was that much of a big deal..
Just yesterday i went to start the car and although it still idles completely normal on cold starts and drives completely fine, i can now hear a lot of popping on warm idle, especially when letting off the gas from 1500-2000rpm when coasting in neutral.. One thing i have observed is that when the lopey idle and/or popping occurs, my air/fuel ratio dial goes all the way to lean or just doesn't read anything at all...as opposed to reading 13-14 as it used to on normal idle...
I dont know if this has anything to do with it but this issue first appeared after i had fixed a leak from my fuel rail (which could have caused the boost cut i mentioned in a previous post). I put everything back on properly and my fuel pressure is still at a steady 60psi
#2
Honda-Tech Member
re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
check the valve lash adjustment. you'd be surprised how much of an impact that can have if it's not within spec. if all is well there, do a compression test. If all is well up to this point, I'd say it's either an issue with the tune, or you have some terrible gas in the tank
#3
re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
check the valve lash adjustment. you'd be surprised how much of an impact that can have if it's not within spec. if all is well there, do a compression test. If all is well up to this point, I'd say it's either an issue with the tune, or you have some terrible gas in the tank
As for the last reason, i wouldn't be surprised. Ive had many people i know tell me the same thing.. Who knows
#4
re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
Ok so i just went through a misfire diagnostic when i was changing the sparkplugs...
I unplugged each plug on by one and the only one that didn't change the lopey idle was cylinder 1. However i can see a spark when i pull the plug out...
I also unplugged the wire while i had the car idle a bit higher and it changed how the engine ran entirely...making literally sound like a lawnmower.
It seems like it isn't firing on idle but yet is when the car is under load or anything above idle...
anyone ever heard of an issue like this?
I unplugged each plug on by one and the only one that didn't change the lopey idle was cylinder 1. However i can see a spark when i pull the plug out...
I also unplugged the wire while i had the car idle a bit higher and it changed how the engine ran entirely...making literally sound like a lawnmower.
It seems like it isn't firing on idle but yet is when the car is under load or anything above idle...
anyone ever heard of an issue like this?
#5
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re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
For me, misfires are almost always more apparent at idle than at higher RPMs. I think it is because when each cylinder is firing slowly it's more obvious when it's not firing, whereas when it's rotating faster the misfire gets "lost" in the speed of rotation. I just woke up so I hope that makes sense, lol. You probably have a minor misfire, not something that makes it misfire every single rotation but one out of every 2-3 rotations. I would do a tune-up and see if that helps.
#6
Re: misfire issue?
For me, misfires are almost always more apparent at idle than at higher RPMs. I think it is because when each cylinder is firing slowly it's more obvious when it's not firing, whereas when it's rotating faster the misfire gets "lost" in the speed of rotation. I just woke up so I hope that makes sense, lol. You probably have a minor misfire, not something that makes it misfire every single rotation but one out of every 2-3 rotations. I would do a tune-up and see if that helps.
#7
Re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
how do you plugs look? how old are your plug wires and ignition components? It could be the result of worn out parts.
I had old plug wires that were causing some random misfire issues and a weak spark on cylinder 1.
I had old plug wires that were causing some random misfire issues and a weak spark on cylinder 1.
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Re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
Ill see how much they are at my local parts store
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Re: Diagnostic Issue: Ignition misfire?
not sure if this is the appropriate section for something like this but anyways,
i have a turbo d16z6 and just yesterday i noticed something unusual about the car when it idles.
For some time now I've had a lopey idle due to maybe a bad IACV...(im not cammed). Ive cleaned out my IACV in the past, which if i remember correctly fixed the issue for a good 3 days. I didnt bother replacing it since its quite expensive to get a new one and since i didnt think it was that much of a big deal..
Just yesterday i went to start the car and although it still idles completely normal on cold starts and drives completely fine, i can now hear a lot of popping on warm idle, especially when letting off the gas from 1500-2000rpm when coasting in neutral.. One thing i have observed is that when the lopey idle and/or popping occurs, my air/fuel ratio dial goes all the way to lean or just doesn't read anything at all...as opposed to reading 13-14 as it used to on normal idle...
I dont know if this has anything to do with it but this issue first appeared after i had fixed a leak from my fuel rail (which could have caused the boost cut i mentioned in a previous post). I put everything back on properly and my fuel pressure is still at a steady 60psi
i have a turbo d16z6 and just yesterday i noticed something unusual about the car when it idles.
For some time now I've had a lopey idle due to maybe a bad IACV...(im not cammed). Ive cleaned out my IACV in the past, which if i remember correctly fixed the issue for a good 3 days. I didnt bother replacing it since its quite expensive to get a new one and since i didnt think it was that much of a big deal..
Just yesterday i went to start the car and although it still idles completely normal on cold starts and drives completely fine, i can now hear a lot of popping on warm idle, especially when letting off the gas from 1500-2000rpm when coasting in neutral.. One thing i have observed is that when the lopey idle and/or popping occurs, my air/fuel ratio dial goes all the way to lean or just doesn't read anything at all...as opposed to reading 13-14 as it used to on normal idle...
I dont know if this has anything to do with it but this issue first appeared after i had fixed a leak from my fuel rail (which could have caused the boost cut i mentioned in a previous post). I put everything back on properly and my fuel pressure is still at a steady 60psi
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