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Old 01-13-2009, 07:36 AM
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Default B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

So I got my hands on pretty sweet GSR swap from a friend. I'm new to the whole B Series world

Swap wont be installed until this weekend. My question to everyone is:

1. Can I use the Harness that came with the swap and use a P2T (Si) Ecu?

2. Or am I better off using an Si harness with the si ECU?

3. Or Should I run either the Si/GSR harness with a chipped P28 or P72 ECU?

4. Would I need to get a step down (obd2b to obd2a to run either of the options I questioned above?

I was told that I can't use the ECU that came with my swap b/c the GSR it came from had an immobilizer and this wouldnt work well with my car.

Just looking for some answers/responses.

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

what year is your car?
what year is your GSR?
Old 01-13-2009, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by unusual71
what year is your car?
what year is your GSR?
My car is a 2000. The GSR is a 2001.
Old 01-13-2009, 06:15 PM
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Damn, 26 views and no one could provide the slightest hint?
Old 01-13-2009, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by BLK VTi
So I got my hands on pretty sweet GSR swap from a friend. I'm new to the whole B Series world

Swap wont be installed until this weekend. My question to everyone is:

1. Can I use the Harness that came with the swap and use a P2T (Si) Ecu?

I am pretty sure you can

2. Or am I better off using an Si harness with the si ECU?

GSR ECU has butterfly. Not too sure about si

3. Or Should I run either the Si/GSR harness with a chipped P28 or P72 ECU?

P28 is OBD 1 so you would need a jumper harness. P72 ECU would probably be best

4. Would I need to get a step down (obd2b to obd2a to run either of the options I questioned above?

I am pretty sure that the Si is obd2b. Not too sure about the GSR but I can look

I was told that I can't use the ECU that came with my swap b/c the GSR it came from had an immobilizer and this wouldnt work well with my car.

Just looking for some answers/responses.

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by BLK VTi
So I got my hands on pretty sweet GSR swap from a friend. I'm new to the whole B Series world

Swap wont be installed until this weekend. My question to everyone is:

1. Can I use the Harness that came with the swap and use a P2T (Si) Ecu?

2. Or am I better off using an Si harness with the si ECU?

3. Or Should I run either the Si/GSR harness with a chipped P28 or P72 ECU?

4. Would I need to get a step down (obd2b to obd2a to run either of the options I questioned above?

I was told that I can't use the ECU that came with my swap b/c the GSR it came from had an immobilizer and this wouldnt work well with my car.

Just looking for some answers/responses.

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers

1.Use ur stock harness and modify it, or find urself a 99-00 SI engine harness

2. Better to use a obd2a p72 for the gsr but since ur car is 00 which is obd2b u would need a obd2b p72 which comes with immoblizer that u have to remove from the ecu or ur check engine light might come on.
u can get urself a jumper harness from obd2b to obd2a and run a 96-98 p72 ecu which doesnt have the immbolizer

3. this helps out alot http://technet.ff-squad.com/
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

So I guess my best bet is to get the Si Wire Harness and the P72 without the immobilizer and pick up a step down.

Hopefully this works. Thanks
Old 01-14-2009, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

the si ecu will work also. and dosent come with an immobilizer.
if you do use the obd2b-obd2a jumper harness, you can also source a jdm p72 and not have to worry about an immobilizer and a host of annoying sensors, 2nd o2 sensor, crank fluctuation sensor etc.
i use a jdm p72 im my 97 ek hatch with a b16a2. works great.
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i have a 97 p72 ecu if you need it....pm for pricing
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Guys, thanks for the responses.

Answered most of the questions I have.
Old 01-15-2009, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

also remember if that gsr motor never came out of a civic remember to switch the driver side bracket on the block ..make it easier swap get a after market intake manifold when it comes to wiring if using a si harness
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

i have a ek3 hatch 0bd2a

gsr motor is 0bd2a

im going to run p28 crome pro

what wiring is needed?
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by kulo
i have a ek3 hatch 0bd2a

gsr motor is 0bd2a

im going to run p28 crome pro

what wiring is needed?
you'll need an obd2a to obd1 jumper harness
Old 01-15-2009, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
you'll need an obd2a to obd1 jumper harness
i have boomslang ecu harness

what engine wiring harness i need to modify?

im going to use my stock ek3 hatch engine loom

i need to extend my 02 sensor?
alternator plug?

ivav plug is 2wire so i dont need to change that

do i need to add vtec wires,pressure switch etc.?
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by kulo
i have boomslang ecu harness

what engine wiring harness i need to modify?

im going to use my stock ek3 hatch engine loom

i need to extend my 02 sensor?
alternator plug?

ivav plug is 2wire so i dont need to change that

do i need to add vtec wires,pressure switch etc.?
if your harness is not a vtec harness you will need to wire it from the vtec solenoid straight to your ecu....
Old 01-15-2009, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

its a vtec-e motor
d15z6

there is a vtec solenoid next to the valve cover
but it doesn't have the green plug like on the b-series vtec dohc
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it doesnt? it should right? if not then just wire it to your harness....
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for what i know...almost all vtec harness are the same...just make sure your using obd1 to obd1 and obd2 to obd2...less of an headache then using obd2 to obd1 or vice versa..
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my gsr dizzy plugs straight into me ek3 engine harness
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Originally Posted by kulo
my gsr dizzy plugs straight into me ek3 engine harness
any obd2a vtec harness will work for any vtec motor...your harness should have the vtec solenoid...if it doesnt then your vtec shouldnt even be working and there should be a CEL....
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

will the d15z6 vtec-e harness plug straight up on the gsr motor?

will it crank?

since the gsr engine harness is 2piece and ek is 1piece

i also have the gsr engine harness, incase i need to cut and solder and plugs off it

im also changing the stock intake manifold for a blox im gsr fitment
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

Damn Kulo, talk about thread Jacking
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Default Re: B Series swap into an EK | Wire harness and ECU question

I really need some help... I'm from the Caribbean and my 1996 EK3 Civic had a CVT transmission that went bad and my car has been down for 2 years. I just bought a 91-95 Civic which has a DOHC Vtec engine. I bought this to get the gearbox to switch my car to manual. The vtec engine looks really clean. How hard would it be for me to swap this engine into my EK3 Civic? Help much appreciated !
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