I know how annoying it is when everyone and their mom posts yet another suspension question, yet this one is a very specific question that I figured many have had actual experience with and could provide valued input. So here it is..... I am literally stuck between two choices that I am about to purchase one of. Option 1: I know someone that is willing to sell me their Tein Type Flex with about 20,000 miles on them, and a fully functioning EDFC to go with it, for $1200. OR Option 2: I can buy some brand new in box Koni Sport (Yellow) struts front and rear in all, for $500 from a different buddy of time, and then just purchase some GC coil sleeve/springs and go the GC/Koni route, which would run me about $850-$900 for the total setup.

I have absolutely no prior personal experience with either of these setups and was really hoping that anyone who has had one or either of these systems before to give valued feedback as to which system they've used and what they thought of it.

Really appreciate the feedback, just wanting to make sure I make the best decision, I like that both GC and Koni offer a lifetime warranty, yet I know that the Flex + EDFC would be a really nice system.

P.S. Probably should mention that it'll be used on my Ek Hatch

 

Can get brand new koni's from vendors for 500 and another 340'ish probably cheaper and get the coilovers with custom rates and teh lifetime warranty. Koni+gc = awesome ride and awesome quality products with peace of mind (lifetime warranty). I love them personally wouldnt do anything else.

 

Yeah my gut was kind of telling me to go the GC/Koni route since I can get everything brand new as opposed to buying a used system which you never really know how hard it was driven or used, plus the lifetime warranty vs. wouldn't have a warranty if I went with the Tein system. Just a tough decision and I am trying to make 100% sure that I make the right one. Thanks for the info. Oh, and which vendor were you referring to that I could find the Koni's for only $500 ???

 

the koni struts are great! I use a set with eibach springs, and i liek them allot, that setup was much better than the TEIN SS i use to have, they were not so good at all.

 

To put it this way, I've never met someone that has had a better performing coilover than the Koni/GC setup. I've been on it for years, and once people saw what it could do... there's now 5 people I personally know that made the switch to it.

As far as I'm concerned:
Moton or Penske > AMR > Koni/GC > everything else

 

Thanks for the info man, much appreciated. Definitely finally made my absolute decision now and am going to go with the GC/Koni setup.......now on to the figuring out what spring rates to choose....and whether or not I want to keep running my 16x7 on 205/40/16 or switch to something with an 8 or 9 offset and throw some spacers on. lol

 

I got my koni shocks for $499 shipped from thmotorsports. They had a deal going on at the time

 

Spacers??? Those are only for when you didn't go with the correct offset!!! I have 205/50's on 15x8 +25 and I had to roll and pull the fenders to fit. It is flush with natural chamber. Zero (+8 or 9 plus 5mm to 10mm spacer) offset sounds like you going for the stretched and chambered look?

 

I like how you say Koni is the best as far as your experience is, then proceed to rate 3 different brands above it.

 

Sorry bout the confusion, this will be my first suspension setup that I do and I'm still learning/trying to figure things out. I appreciate all the info and advice though.

If this is any help at all, this pretty much exactly the suspension setup that I'd like to do on my hatch in terms of looks/height off the ground.

http://www.flushstance.com/thestance...flossin-lm16s/

 

Good luck keeping something like that under control on the streets. You ride will be shitty and with that much chamber, your car will follow every little bump or groove in the road. Not a setup I would recommend but it's your car. You can still look good and have function if you do it right. Take a look at my thread in my sig. On the last few pages to give you an idea. 15x8 +25. They sit flush without doing extreme chamber like the link you posted. I autox mine and still have a comfortable ride. I could go lower but I like going fast and not worrying about bottoming out.

 

Nice build your car looks good. I think you make a valid point, especially being my first setup, I think I may need to find something right in the middle. I want a little bit more of the stanced or flush look since mine is just my dd and isn't going to be ran too hard or anything. Just reppin that ol d16y7 lol, just gonna get the car how I want it to be looking/handling before I finally do a swap. But I can see how the setups I showed ya may be a bit extreme for still having a functional ride.

 

Thank you!! I think you would probably be happy with a 8" wide wheel with a +15-20 offset. You got to remember too that you will have to roll and pull the fenders even with a chamber kit.

 

Yeah I plan on having all the fenders professionally rolled/pulled. I think a 16x8 sounds like a good wheel size choice to go with. So, going with the GC/Koni Yellow setup, daily driven but also looking for extra performance, what spring rates would you guys recommend? I don't want to go too high and give up the comfort, but I also don't want em to be so soft that they don't handle as well when I do finally get a swap in my hatch in the near future. Also, do I need all 4 extended top hats, or only need 2???

Thanks!!

 

If you plan on bent slammed, I would def get extended top hats. You will need all 4. Your def going to want a stiff setup being slammed. Contact the vendor on here and he should be able to guide you in the right direction with spring rates for what you want

 

I'm thinking that I want to be as low as possible, while still being able to have some comfort since it's my dd, and not wanting to scrape all around town on every slight imperfection in the road. This is a quote that I got from THMotorsports on getting a complete GC/Koni setup including 2 or all 4 extended top hats and am trying to compare prices to see if it's a better deal to go through them or would be the same if I just order my GC stuff from GC (Springs/Extended Top Hats) and then order my struts directly from Koni.

Seems like the THMotorsports deal isn't far superior or anything... I'd be going with the Stage III package most likely, so total about $1019 + shipping. Plus I don't know if that package through them is custom spring rates or just whatever they have... I'll have to call GC and talk to them about my plans for the suspension and what they recommend in terms of rates.





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Hi,

We are the only ones who have all applications currently instock!

Thank you for inquiring about the Koni/Ground Control Package.
For the stage 1 package with 4 koni yellows and 4 ground control coilovers its $799 shipped. For the stage 2 package with 4 koni yellows, 4 ground control coilovers, and 2 top hats its $899 shipped. These prices are for all 92-00 Civics and 94-01 Integras. If you have a 93-97 prelude, or 88-91 Civic, 90-93 Integra, you are looking at $39 more per package due to the shocks being more expensive. 01-05 civics, RSX, and TSX are $995 shipped. To order, please call us at 1-800-959-0145 ext 8 or you can paypal: sales@thmotorsports.com . Please remember to tell us the spring rates you want, as you can choose whatever rates you like!

Stage III package, which includes all 4 top hats, is $1019 shipped in the lower 48 states.

Please remember, if you are located in California, you must pay $37-42 in tax depending on which package you go with. Ground Control makes us charge California customers this tax since they are located in California.

If you want Koni's alone:
Koni Yellows for 88-00 Civics/94-01/Del Sol Integra are on super special right now for $499 shipped! To order, please call me at 1-800-959-0145 ext 103 or you can paypal: sales@thmotorsports.com . If you have a Prelude, Accord please add $75 to that price. If you have an RSX/Ep3/EM2, the koni's are $595 shipped.

Thanks in advance,

Luke
THM 1-800-959-0145 ext 104
AIM: lpawlik@THMotorsports.com
lpawlik@THMotorsports.com

 

You should probably edit your post so that the information remains private, TH most likely send you pricing in a private message for a reason.

But yeah, I shopped around quite a bit before I got my stuff and ended up buying from them. The prie and service were great and shipping was fast. You might find the same price a couple of places but you probably won't find lower.

 

If your in the 503, you should check out our stuff. We are only across the river. Shoot us a pm if you'd like to check out our stuff. I'll be also in the PDX area this weekend delivering a few sets of coils if you would like to meet up.

We are a H-T Sponsor. Here is our thread.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-48/%2Alifetime-warranty%2A-amr-engineering-coilover-sale-stock-2802185/

 

Oh, oops. Sorry TH, I didn't know I was supposed to keep everything secret? Anyways, what about the post should I edit? Wasn't trying to share any insider info, was just trying to get some advice from others with the same setup as to if this was a great deal or not. Why would prices need to remain a secret anyways and not all same pricing for every person? Doesn't that seem a bit shady for a company to do?? No assuming or saying that they are at all doing that...but am simply curious that is all.

Anyways thanks for the help man, much appreciated.

 

A lot of times manufacturers don't care for their retailers to sell product below a certain price, hence why you see a lot of "price too low to advertise" or "place in cart for price" lines on websites. Nothing shady about it, just the way business is done.

Andy's stuff also gets great reviews, you should take him up on his offer and see what he might be able to do for you. You can't beat local.

 

You better take him up on his offer!!! I wish he was local to me. AMR is my next suspension when i become more competitive!!!

 

Thanks for all the info guys. I am a believer and decided to bail on my initial decision to go with the GC/Koni setup and am now going to just step up and buy an AMR setup. Andy seems like he knows everything there is to know when it comes to coils, and I agree, you can't beat getting to support a local company doing big things. I know it'll be tough having to wait quite awhile to get my setup...but dang I seriously can't wait to get them and install. I'll keep you guys posted in this thread as to once I receive em, install em, and break em in and let you know what I think and how it goes. Could be a couple months.

Cheers!

 

Because I've never met anyone running the three I mentioned above it on a Honda. I keep pushing AMR on people hoping someone will step up. I'm content on my Koni/GC setup with extended top hats on all 4 only having paid $620 with lifetime warranty on everything. Trust me when I say nobody will get that deal so don't bother shopping around lol. If my Koni's grow tired I'll replace them and sell it all as a fresh set of suspension to personally make the jump to AMR.

 

Thanks for the support! You won't be disappointed!