Ok i've got a cx hatch that really needs an engine swap..

I was driving around with my friends..
one has a wrx wagon lots of mods! another has a stock wrx, another has a cammed vr6 gti..

well.. lets just say I didnt exactly "keep up"

SO, i'm weighing my sohc options
(sorry bseries guys I like what I like, and what I like is dseries).

now i'm having trouble deciding between either a complete sohc vtec swap
or using the d15b7 out of my last hatch(which I crashed) to do minime.

now the mini-me is tempting because of its higher compression,
I'd like as high comp as I can get for this setup! But I do have a turbokit lying around that will go on some day, and having to deal with high comp on that would be a pain, so either way is good.
But for now highcomp =

And a jdm15b or z6 would be nice because of the extra displacement(the b7is actually just a 1.4 rounded up, and the d15bvtec and z6 are 1.5 rounded down and up respectively) and ease of which my turbo would go on later.

so I just dont know!!!!!
which is why I ask for your help

heres a pic for encouragement

 

y0! that pic aint showing up... haha, anyway.. here goes..

i bought my jdm d15b in hopes of keeping the d-series alive, and the pure fact that i didn't have any money. it cost $300 for the longblock, $100 ex/si tranny, and $100 for the p28... i used everything else from the 92 hatch i have...

i also had the d15b7, and that thing personally didn't pull for crap.

frankly, the d15b is kind of 'king' of the d-series single cams to me, with the better r/s ratio and better cam. on the *** dyno, it pulls. i'm expecting times of lower 15's, but haven't actually got to run it. i've raced my friend's b16 EF hatch, and can stay with him (front bumper/back bumper) for the entire run, through the end of third gear. i can also take my brother's 99si from launch and kind of not look back.

so far, mods include a fake *** aem cai, dc header, stock exaust. it definitely pulls for the price tomi, but i really am looking to upgrade. upgrade to what? a d16a6 w/p29's, sohc vtec head, crower/exospeed cam....

you'll love the d15b when you first get it, but since you're at the crossroads already, build the beast in your garage and then run it... good luck y0!

--phantom grey hatch mafia

 

get a DOHC second gen ZC motor. Much cheaper, and its a D series! It makes 130 HP, and it also has equal length half shafts!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda_Tengoku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a DOHC second gen ZC motor. Much cheaper, and its a D series! It makes 130 HP, and it also has equal length half shafts!</TD></TR></TABLE>

naah

 

Just drop in a complete D15B swap, more likely it will have lower miles and for around $300 you cant beat the price. Im hoping to drop mine in about 2 to 3 months, paid 275 for the engine itself, 55 dist, hopefully around 110 for ECU and with an Si tranny that thing should be pretty decent for the price in an 88 CRX DX. Lates and good luck on the swap

 

D15B swap. Trust me Tad.

Read https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=838290


Modified by BauleyCivic at 1:49 AM 4/28/2004

 

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Read https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=838290


Modified by BauleyCivic at 1:49 AM 4/28/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm.. a'aight.. well you kinda ended up as the "minime pioneer" around here..
so if you say d15b i'll take you're word for it.

I'll get one ! just hope I can scrounge up the dough

 

if you can...try to get a complete d15b vtec w/ the lsd tranny. very good. minime isn't worth imo. way better cam on the d15b. far more potential on that motor. now if you get curious...and you say you like high comp....

d15b vtec head, on a z6 block w/ a1 pistons. now THAT will be a high comp single cam!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anarchyfox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you can...try to get a complete d15b vtec w/ the lsd tranny. very good. minime isn't worth imo. way better cam on the d15b. far more potential on that motor. now if you get curious...and you say you like high comp....

d15b vtec head, on a z6 block w/ a1 pistons. now THAT will be a high comp single cam!</TD></TR></TABLE>
well from wh at i've read the d15b and z6 heads are the same, just a different cam.

 

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d15b vtec head, on a z6 block w/ a1 pistons. now THAT will be a high comp single cam!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah too bad the compression will be so high that you'll be pinging on anything less than 100 octane.

 

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Yeah too bad the compression will be so high that you'll be pinging on anything less than 100 octane.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well of course you'd have to get it tuned,
shouldnt be any more dangerous than your average turbo setup

an afc or hondata or somethin works wonders

 

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well of course you'd have to get it tuned,
shouldnt be any more dangerous than your average turbo setup

an afc or hondata or somethin works wonders</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not on 13.6:1 Compression. That is NOT streetable in any way shape or form.

 

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Not on 13.6:1 Compression. That is NOT streetable in any way shape or form.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hah! says you! I say it can be done!

but yeh.. uhh.. not by me, haha.
13.6!? is that what the compression would come out to with a1 pistons in a z6???

 

no it was a joke guys...haha. don't do that. well..unless you wanna see things like holes in a z6 block...

 

heh.. lemme guess.. a1 pistons have some sort of fucked up big dome on them or something?

 

hey guys i was kinda thinking along the same lines in gettin a d15b vtec motor.....buti was concerned about smog in CA...or should i be? i noticed most of yall are from the bay area or socal so i figured i'd ask......

 

you should be concerned about smog if you have any car.

my stock cx wont pass

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you should be concerned about smog if you have any car.

my stock cx wont pass </TD></TR></TABLE>

true, your motor should be somewhat very clean, i've seen swaps done with imported motors fail so easily. from experience, much should be in prestine shape.

i've never actually tried this, but my setup when smog rolls around will be to run two cats...

one on the header (stock vx)
one on the downpipe (stock dx/ex/si)

 

I understand you like the d series motors, and i have no problem with that. U like what u like, and u just happen to like slow motors. (no offense) That turbo kit u were talking about is the only way ur gonna even remotely keep up with the cars u listed.
SO with that in mind, i would say get the d15b vtec it should be good for your turbo, and then turbo the thing its not that hard. (Money aint a thing right ! hah)

either way good luck, i wouldnt personally look past the zc, its still d-series and u can still turbo it and its gonna net u the most potential i would think. But i have seen a couple nice single cam turbo setups. A few in eg hatches running low thirteens with 10-11 psi on stock motors.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Used2beAb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand you like the d series motors, and i have no problem with that. U like what u like, and u just happen to like slow motors. (no offense) That turbo kit u were talking about is the only way ur gonna even remotely keep up with the cars u listed.
SO with that in mind, i would say get the d15b vtec it should be good for your turbo, and then turbo the thing its not that hard. (Money aint a thing right ! hah)

either way good luck, i wouldnt personally look past the zc, its still d-series and u can still turbo it and its gonna net u the most potential i would think. But i have seen a couple nice single cam turbo setups. A few in eg hatches running low thirteens with 10-11 psi on stock motors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah man, no problem,
we all have our opinions.
sounds like you have a level head about it tho, so its coo.

and ur right, well I dont remember what cars I listed,
but I'm not going to expect to be spanking any high hp cars with the na d15b
it'll still be very fun, and if I get the urge to start smokin fools.. I already have the turbo kit waiting to go on
but I work full time so i'm not going to concentrate on that till later.