D16Z6, Turbo, Eagle rods, whats the real scoop

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Default D16Z6, Turbo, Eagle rods, whats the real scoop

k i have seen pages like the old one.com or something that says if u get ZC or D series Eagle rods, u need to notch the block for clearances???
i have also come across that theres 2 variations of these rods ??? true or false?? if so what part number is each one...

i am plannin on boosting 10 psi off with stock pistons but with Eagle rods....
do anybody has a figure of how much power the Honda pistons handle... like the stock rods are good to about 200 hp

i am rebuilding the motor as of now, all i can put it, nows the time, i wanna stay away from getting new pistons...

also the compression of 9:2.1 seems good to mel..i dont think i should lower to 8's if i just dont want to boost past 12 anytime.......

any thoughts????
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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i'd just do the eagle rods and some je or cp or srp (some may object) pistons. since ur in the motor already it makes sense. i'm not even sure if the stock pistons will work the eagle rods anyway. i have eagle rods and JE 9:1 pistons in my motor now (all making love to some GE sleeves hehe). haven't put it under any positive pressure yet but i have a couple friends who ran the eagles fine
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Yea, you will have to notch the block, its basically clearancing so your rod doesnt smack the bottom of your cyllinder-walls. Go with anything from 9.0-10.0 compression. Its really dependent on how much boost you plan on running and with what series and spec of turbo, as cfm can change the amount of boost you'll be able to run. Droping down to 8:1 compression levels destroys low end torque, but does make it easier and more stable to run higher boost levels with larger turbos, but thats really for a track only car, though you can do it. Even though you end up buying 9:1 compression pistons(or 9.2:1 like you may be thinking) the effective compression will change after you assemble your motor. Every time you deck your block, mill your head, etc you change the compression a little bit depending on how much is taken off.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Default Re: D16Z6, Turbo, Eagle rods, whats the real scoop (Distorted)

when i installed my eagle rods, with je pistons, i had my my block notched.

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Default Re: D16Z6, Turbo, Eagle rods, whats the real scoop (platinum00)

hey platinum this is felix the dude that came with dylan to buy ur old turbo kit

i didnt felt like wanting to notch the block , but i would do it if i come to have to do it

as far as pistons, i just wanted to make sure that honda pistons will hold 10psi and will not destroy the borders.,... wich i dont see as a problem if i always doble make sure i dont detonate

and IMO 9:2.1 compression is fine for some boost
but my budddy on the shop is trying to convince me to get 8:8 compression pistons...
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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if you are gonna use stock pistons and only gonna run like 10psi on the z6- get some ls rods rebushed. they will be able to hold the hp and u dont have to notch the block....just a suggestion
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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http://www.theoldone.com/artic..._tips/
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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low compression

that high compression is for the birds.....i like running low compression, more boost, advanced timing and no knock
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Default Re: D16Z6, Turbo, Eagle rods, whats the real scoop (TravSi)

Two things:

1) DO NOT BUILD YOUR MOTOR WITH STOCK PISTONS. Just don't do it. It's stupid. The pistons are the #1 weak link in ALL honda stock motors. The ring lands break. It's a dumb idea, period.

2) Run 10:1 compression. Just do it. You will like it better. I'm not going to list the reasons right now in detail, but a few are a) better low end out of boost performance b) faster spool c) more horsepower on less boost and d) more area under the curve.

Size your turbo properly... A .48 t3 is what I would run. Get pistons. Just please, don't build the motor w/o pistons. You will be impressed if you make the right decisions.

Good luck!
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