What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 30, 2003 | 08:43 AM
  #1  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit?

Just like the title, whats the most you've actually sprayed through your JRSC in front of the throttle body, I'm up to a 70 shot and am thinking about bumping it up to an 80, maybe more, what do you think?
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 08:43 AM
  #2  
rOby's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 656
Likes: 0
From: houston
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 10:12 AM
  #3  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (rOby)

Is it bad to spray through an Eaton/Roots blower?
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:21 AM
  #4  
GreddySi99's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: knoxville, tn, usa
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

if you have the internals to do it keep going!!!
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:44 AM
  #5  
osbock98's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (intercooledJRSC)

I was thinking of nitrous myself do you have a wet, dry or fogger set-up.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:51 AM
  #6  
psileepR's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 0
From: Cypress, CA, USA
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GITWIDIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it bad to spray through an Eaton/Roots blower? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was taught that spraying with FI is almost like doubling the shot.. 70 shot = 140 NA shot..

that seems a lot to me.

bump for anyone that has experience with a wet system on a jrsc
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:57 AM
  #7  
FULLTHROTTLE's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO, America
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (Civtek)

I would like to know the answer to that myself. I am toying with the idea of a DP setup on my car over the winter with some internals. BTW its a JRSC Si.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 01:23 PM
  #8  
boosted92's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,411
Likes: 1
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GITWIDIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it bad to spray through an Eaton/Roots blower? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on how much boost you're running. My friend just cracked the rotors on the blower of his 2001 Lightning while he was running 20 PSI and tried to hit it up with a 125 shot. I think you'll be fine with an 80 shot just running 8-10 though.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:19 AM
  #9  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (osbock98)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by osbock98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was thinking of nitrous myself do you have a wet, dry or fogger set-up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I use the hondtaa nitrous controls, sprays dry in front of throttle body and hondata pulls timing and adds fuel.

I've got the internals and low compression to keep playin, just don't know how much the charger can take, thanks for the input everyone.
Going to try Direct Port this winter and let the hondata control it..
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:34 AM
  #10  
falcongsr's Avatar
What is this crap?
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 23,180
Likes: 57
From: Minneapolis, MN
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (boosted92)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depends on how much boost you're running. My friend just cracked the rotors on the blower of his 2001 Lightning while he was running 20 PSI and tried to hit it up with a 125 shot. I think you'll be fine with an 80 shot just running 8-10 though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool! thats some serious thermal stress. making 20psi with a roots blower is a very high temperature affair, and then throwing sub-freezing nitrous at it...yeah i could see that thing failing. as far as doing it on a honda. man 80shot is a lot...but hondata controlling fuel and timing - thats cool.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:35 AM
  #11  
DeepSi's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 0
From: Lat Long 32.90 97.03
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

you might want to list your internals so we can help you and determine if you are reaching your max with the setup. You have a good setup from the sound of it and seem to know what you are doing. good job
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:09 PM
  #12  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (DeepSi)

Setup:
D16Z6
JRSC 10-11 psi
Hondata S200B tuned by Payn Technolgies on nitrous
Arias Pistons- 9:1
Crower Rods
STR block Guard
Balanced Bottom End
Clushmasters 7 lb. Flywheel
RPS 4 puck clutch
Refreshed factory head (New springs etc.)

I have around 15,000 on this engine now, think the bottom end can handle more nitrous, just don't know about the impellers on the blower. Am I the only one spraying these mugga's down or what?
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:15 PM
  #13  
Kevin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,420
Likes: 2
From: MIRAMAR, FL
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

You shouldnt have any problems spraying even a 125 dry shot into the rotors. Its actually cooling them down so that is helpful. Overspinning the blower is much worse. I call my nitrous setup a liquid intercooler for the blower
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:28 PM
  #14  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (gLok)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gLok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You shouldnt have any problems spraying even a 125 dry shot into the rotors. Its actually cooling them down so that is helpful. Overspinning the blower is much worse. I call my nitrous setup a liquid intercooler for the blower </TD></TR></TABLE>

So how much are you spraying through your TRD blower? How much have you heard of people safely getting away with spraying it through the charger?
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:47 PM
  #15  
Kevin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,420
Likes: 2
From: MIRAMAR, FL
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GITWIDIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So how much are you spraying through your TRD blower? How much have you heard of people safely getting away with spraying it through the charger?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im spraying a very small shot in mine. Well i did, i blew my supercharger a few months ago. I didnt blow it with nitrous though, i rigged the bypass valve open to limit boost while breaking in the bottom end and it overheated the rotors.

I raced a kid in a white GSR with a JR blower on it, he said he was spraying a .042 jet with stock boost and it ran really strong. Ive talked to different people over the years and have never heard of nitrous killing a blower. Personally i would never spray a wet shot into the rotors for fear of pre ignition.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 09:14 PM
  #16  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (gLok)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gLok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I raced a kid in a white GSR with a JR blower on it, he said he was spraying a .042 jet with stock boost and it ran really strong. Ive talked to different people over the years and have never heard of nitrous killing a blower. Personally i would never spray a wet shot into the rotors for fear of pre ignition.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have an N.O.S jet stamped 032 in there now which I believe is a 70 hp shot for my setup but I could be wrong. It's so hard to find a jet=hp conversion sheet for N.O.S jets, does anyone have one?
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2003 | 08:36 AM
  #17  
Muad'Dib's Avatar
Corr Performance Pilot
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 2,508
Likes: 0
From: Chocolate City, LA
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GITWIDIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it bad to spray through an Eaton/Roots blower? </TD></TR></TABLE>no
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2003 | 10:23 AM
  #18  
Kevin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,420
Likes: 2
From: MIRAMAR, FL
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

These are approximate hp gains.

HP Gain / NOS Jet Size

25 / .024
30 / .026
35 / .028
40 / .030
50 / .032
60 / .034
70 / .036
85 / .045
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:20 AM
  #19  
gitwidit's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 6
From: Traverse City, MI
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (gLok)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gLok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">These are approximate hp gains.

HP Gain / NOS Jet Size

25 / .024
30 / .026
35 / .028
40 / .030
50 / .032
60 / .034
70 / .036
85 / .045</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks biggins mang, where did you find that at, did a search and came up w/ nothing. Called NOS, they said every application is different, which is true to a certain extent..
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:08 AM
  #20  
fredtoast's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 513
Likes: 0
From: Traveling, tn
Default Re: What's the most you've sprayed through your JRSC, am I at my Limit? (GITWIDIT)

The NO2 shouldn't hurt the blower. You need to check out the "forced induction integra" forum at hostboard.com. There are a few jrsc guys there that spray. Since the NO2 has a cooling effect it almost doubles the HP gains with a jrsc. So if the engine is built to take it don't worry about the blower. I don't know which blower you have but 10 psi is probably about the limit. You may need the nawz if you want to keep moving up. Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mstrpimp02
Forced Induction
7
Dec 13, 2002 09:39 PM
SIK IN DA HED
Forced Induction
7
Aug 10, 2002 12:19 PM
jamal-188
Forced Induction
5
Apr 2, 2002 12:54 PM
EVOTHIS
Forced Induction
21
Feb 7, 2002 03:28 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:05 AM.