Feel free to explain your answers. Thanks

 

not really something you need to poll. its a fact.

 

its one of those things that will always be debateable, like should abortion be legal. make up your own mind and leave it at that.

 

in a way it is and in a way it is not becouse say i am looking for a nice N/A nitrous cam and it is getting to be hard to find info on

and turbo there is different carectoristcs say like you drop cr number with turbo MOST of the time and with spray you can go up

 

Forced induction is forcing additional air in the cylinders in order to burn more fuel. This is exactly what a turbo, supercharger, AND nitrous does. Nitrous goes into the cylinder and the 2 parts nitrogen is burned off leaving the oxygen molecule. Additional air into the cylinders. This is why I say it's BS when someone calls nitrous "cheating", when it works on the same basic principle as a turbo.

 

yes that is true but you dont see anyone saying oh i am going to drop my compretion but i dont know how far becouse i dont want to hurt the spool time on my bottle

there is differances but not much i do agree with you though

 

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nitrous is pushing more air into the engine, you do the same with compressor, except you compress the air.. both methods allow more air into the engine.

 

INJECTion. Of course.

 

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actually they seperate with the heat, the oxygen helps the combustion cycle and the other leftovers help control the combustion process...

 

When you say, "oxygen helps the combustion cycle", you mean it is used to burn the extra fuel, correct? This is the same thing I was trying to say.

 

This is not 95c1v1cs1 speaking-- this Message is from Integranator:

With nitrous, you're not really "forcing" air into the cylinders. You do happen to be adding more air molecules though, but not forcing air into them. With boost, you are pressurizing (sp?) the air to squeeze, or "force" the air into the cylinders. You're not just place more air into the cylinders like nitrous does.

Oh yeah-- It also helps if you decide whether or not to take the literal meaning of the words, or just the understood meaning of the phrase.

 

Well Nitrous IS injected into the intake (which IS part of the engine). While it's not "forced" into the cylinders, rather it's sucked in there, it's still forced into the engine. The engine still receives more oxygen than it can get on it's own without the nitrous.

So basically, like I said before, there are two trains of thought here. Either you consider it forcecd induction because it adds more oxygen to the motor than it can get on it's own... or you only consider something forced induction if it pressurizes the intake.

As far as I've seen, and I've had this argument ALOT in the past week, is that there is NO set definition of the term "forced induction". There are websites that classify nitrous as forced induction, and there are some websites that list forced induction AND nitrous. So far I haven't seen anything explaining how it ISN'T forcecd induction.

 

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With nitrous, you're not really "forcing" air into the cylinders. You do happen to be adding more air molecules though, but not forcing air into them. With boost, you are pressurizing (sp?) the air to squeeze, or "force" the air into the cylinders. You're not just place more air into the cylinders like nitrous does.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmmmmm......950-1000psi in a bottle? If you ask me I would say it's pretty pressurized, not just "placed" into the cylinders.

 

If it's not "naturally" inducing ambient air, it's labled as forced induction.

Hence yes it is a form of forced induction. just like what motormatrix said. it's a fact.

 

Think of Nitrous oxide as forced aspiration. It doesn not compress air molecules like a turbo or a SC would, but it does force oxygen into the cylinders.

Forced Induction= boost, psi, turbo, SC
Nitrous oxide= forceing oxygen without pressure.

art

 

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Hence yes it is a form of forced induction. just like what motormatrix said. it's a fact.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I concur.

 

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hmmmmmm......950-1000psi in a bottle? If you ask me I would say it's pretty pressurized, not just "placed" into the cylinders.

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but it is not like you are going to have 950-1000 psi of pressure in the intake manofld it is regulated to a lower psi during the injection

 

I don't think that the solenoids regulate the pressure though. It's still going to be at 950psi when it comes out of the fogger. After that it's a different story though, I'm not sure how much pressure is lost in the intake manifold.

 

the pressure drops after it comes out of the jet thats why it is there it is like saying you are running open solennoids

 

It is a fact, all three add more oxygen.

Out the three, nitrous oxide does it more efficiently.


Mike

 

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Out the three, nitrous oxide does it more efficiently.


Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes nitrous is the most efficient.

 

I think Forced Induction refers to SC's and Turbos. I think art put it right with the term 'forced aspiration'. The three should be grouped together, but forced induction isn't the term that should be used.

 

"nos" definetily isn't naturally aspirated but you aren't forcing air into the motor so it's not FI. But call it what you want.

 

you willingly force a substance not present in the air, into the combustion chamber.

This constitues forced induction.

technically water/alky injection is forced induction, and so is propane injection :-)

 

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This is the best answer I've seen so far. I consider it forced induction for lack of a better term to describe it. There are only 2 terms out there...F/I or N/A..Certainly doesn't belong in N/A, that would be BS.