I spoke with a moderator on the last locked post and he suggested I start a new one and he said he'd keep an eye on this one for any flaming, so lets keep it clean. I in return made a less inflammatory title...Though, I do have to say I find it ironic that if the title of the other post had said ,"HKS knockoff, or Greddy knockoff turbo manifold", no one would have had a problem.

Ok-back on topic-

Im making some long runner, equal length headers very similar to the one on that was pictured on the JoTech civic a month or so ago here on Honda Tech. The two middle runners will come over the top and the two outside ones will go under the middle runners and into the colloctor area. As in Super T's other manifolds, it will be made of 321 stainless steel. I should have the first ones ready in about two weeks give or take. Price range will be 600-700 as I have not finalized actual production time yet to determine price. They will not work with A/C as this style manifold directly centers the turbine in between the two middle exhaust ports. It should be a very clean production with a minimum of welds...

Super T Motorsports

 

thanks for product announcement. now lets see this thing!

 

Im making some long runner, equal length headers very similar to the one on that was pictured on the JoTech civic a month or so ago here on Honda Tech. The two middle runners will come over the top and the two outside ones will go under the middle runners and into the colloctor area. [/QUOTE]

Do have a link to that post on H-T? i cant find it in the search
or will it simply look just like how "Shocker" D16 manifold is?

 

its looks like the full-race unit that is for the race vehicles...

 

Props to dave and his work

props again to the fact he stands behind his work

 

Dave is a good guy....This manifold he is mentioning has pretty long runners, not like the one pictured in Seth's car. Seth has teh street version, which overlaps.

OT: Dave, what's your paypal again? I need those flanges ASAP. I don't know if Seth called you about them...

 

I'm sure the MIG is there for seting up the positions only...for example, a little tack weld

 

sweet, post some in-production pics

 

He might tack with a mig but everything is done with TIG. I have one of his pieces and it is very high quailty welds - inside and out

 

Everyone just ignore this guy and do not respond to him or egg him on, I reported him to a mod and they are watching him...do a search and you'll see hes been trolling my last 5 or 6 posts with some pretty derogative posts...he's entitled to his opinions, so let him post them, but dont respond back, we really dont need to encourage this sort of behavior...

Thanks,

Dave
Super T Motorsports

 

and along the lines of MIG, the only MIG that is done is on the inside of the turbine flange area to reduce the volume area and to double weld(mig inside, tig outside) the collector area for strength and so that the exhaust pulses dont come out of the pipes and hit a larger volume area and slow down and subsequently stack up...All turbes and outside of the collector area and head flange area are tacked with MIG and then 100% TIG welded with 347 rod.

 

so miggign nside of the collector is stronger than a tig weld?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=458996

Thats the link with the pics in it...i was just reading that post like 3 mins before ...HTH

 

don't take this as a flame, i am serious with this question but it could be seen as a flame. i remember awhile ago you were saying that your manifold was better than geoff's because the air "waves" or whatever hit into eachother making more speed, and geoff said his was better because the air never met any resistance with the other runners with his straight out design. what made you change your mind on your stand on things? again, im not flaming you in any way.

 

Didn't take it as a flame...not sure what you mean though, could you provide a link to the thread? I think you are talking about the collector design one...I never said mine was superior to anyones, only said that when using a garrett turbo with their small openings, pointing the runners inward may have some benefits opposed to having them come straight down and the exhaust bouncing off the shelf...is that what you are referring to?

Dave

 

Tig is generally considered more precise and more controllable, thus stronger...but MIG is much quicker at filling in then is TIG, its more of a process efficiency thing...

 

if hks or greddy had people on this board, there would have been a problem with the title.

 

You ever tried to get a tig tip inside a collector flange AND see what the hell you're doing PLUS feed rod in? LOL It's next to if not, completely impossible!!!

Mig is very strong, as well, Super T Seems like the kind of person that is tedious in his work, as well as the FF (geoff etc.) guys, who are all great!

Free bump 4 u.

 

TIG is stronger than MIG, however MIG is a faster and less costly manufacturing process.

for example:

 

If you want to see daves welding you have to see my dump tube Thing is awesome!

 

I've been talking to Dave about a kit and he is very friendly and very knowledable about his kits..
i will be calling you soon about one Dave

 

What mid does is, produce more "weld" material, so it fills the gap easier. While tig can make bigger welds like mig, its a lot harder and uses tons of filler. Mig would probaly be the only option in this area.

 

ive done it once or twice

 

w000t uupupup haha