how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp?

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Mar 31, 2003 | 07:06 AM

Crazy Cooter

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how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp?

How much boost would I need to run on a Z6 motor for 200 whp with a 14b turbo? I'm guessing ~12psi (stab in the dark), but how would I go about properly estimating that? Anyone running this set-up with 200whp? I'm just checking to make sure I build it to last.

Mar 31, 2003 | 08:15 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (Crazy Cooter)

Can do it with a well-tuned 11 psi.

Build away!!!

Randy

Mar 31, 2003 | 09:29 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (Crazy Cooter)

yeah that sounds about right

Mar 31, 2003 | 09:46 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (Charlie Moua)

hey how much will u estimate 8psi on d16y8 and 14b. semi tune.

Mar 31, 2003 | 10:20 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (turbod16y8)

... how about z6 built with turbopanda's rod/piston combo and a t3?... how much boost to equal 200whp?...

Mar 31, 2003 | 11:26 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp?

On alot of the smaller turbos it'll take about the same 10-12 PSI for 200WHP. Once you get into the bigger ones maybe 8-10. I'm hoping to boost 200WHP with an AX53B60-P18

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Mar 31, 2003 | 12:04 PM

Crazy Cooter

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (Civic_95_Si)

Thanks guys, I was just wondering if I was in the right ballpark.

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Mar 31, 2003 | 12:26 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (Crazy Cooter)

my friend's d16z6 w/a t3/4 and 14 psi (9:1 comp) put down 250 whp and 205wtq and that was when his exh. manifold had a fat crack in it

Mar 31, 2003 | 12:45 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (94dxt)

180hp / 184tq

165k mile stock d16z6 with a custom 14b turbosetup I made.. running 10psi on the dyno, tuned with dsm 450's and a fields boxter vtec controller.

If we had something a bit better to tune with, I probably could have made some more power..

Jeff

[Modified by AbaZ, 9:48 PM 3/31/2003]

Mar 31, 2003 | 01:04 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (AbaZ)

i call bullshit.
no way you make more torque than hp

Mar 31, 2003 | 01:41 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (SiRkid)

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i call bullshit.
no way you make more torque than hp

lol, call what you want.. this has been posted on my site for over 6 months, alot of people dont belive it. The reason it has more torque than hp is due to the custom spring setup we have on the internal wastegate actuator.

And why the **** would I even bullshit something like this anyways? gimme a break.. lol

I have a member on my board boosteded9, who was making a little bit over 300 hp on a stock d16z6 boosting 20psi, with a custom setup.. but finnaly blew the ****** up..

check it out
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_p...-t4/index.html

the updated dyno isn in their, and the pictures of the blown engine are somewhere on the forum...

Jeff

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Mar 31, 2003 | 01:46 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (AbaZ)

those #'s are very possible(more tq than hp) although you should be putting down more than that, are you running rich? bigger inj aren't nesissary for 10psi

[Modified by 94dxt, 2:47 PM 3/31/2003]

Mar 31, 2003 | 01:58 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (94dxt)

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those #'s are very possible(more tq than hp) although you should be putting down more than that, are you running rich? bigger inj aren't nesissary for 10psi

[Modified by 94dxt, 2:47 PM 3/31/2003]

As I said it has to do with our custom wastegate... and tuning was very limited for what we were using, just a fields controller, and I was playing with a bit of base timing.

stock injectors at 10psi, at probably 180% duty cycle, ya thats real safe..

Trust me, I know how engine management works, since I have done probably over 15 different turbo setups on peoples cars

JEff Frank

[Modified by AbaZ, 11:00 PM 3/31/2003]

Mar 31, 2003 | 02:09 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (AbaZ)

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i call bullshit.
no way you make more torque than hp

anything and everything is possible, you just have to try it and find out for yourself like i did.... there is a pic of my dyno sheet in teh link on my sig but i dont think theres pics of the blown motor in tehre..... btw i did 302@16.5psi, it blew when i went over 20

Mar 31, 2003 | 02:51 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (BoostedED9)

what was your setup man? (b00stedED9)??

I'm very curious, becuase i was shooting for 300hp, but i thought i was going to have to boost about 20psi.
I'll be running a T3/T4 50 trim .48 A/R hotside, .56 A/R compressor..
Peace

ps. that avatar turns me on kinda...who is she?

Mar 31, 2003 | 06:45 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (ill_take_one)

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thers a list of my setup on the link to pics of my car in my sig..

that girl is accordgrl she posts on this board frequently..

Mar 31, 2003 | 07:56 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (SiRkid)

Its deffinately possible to make more tq then whp. Check out my sig. Do a search on my name and you will see the dyno's.

Mar 31, 2003 | 08:42 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (norcalcrx)

I think the,

, means he was kidding

Mar 31, 2003 | 09:25 PM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (AbaZ)

i thought the 302 was made on 16psi, and when he went for 20psi after running thre 11.8 with the 16psi 302, he blew motor???still SUCH awesome #'s...d16 rock on!!!!

Apr 1, 2003 | 04:50 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (GOLDBERG)

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i thought the 302 was made on 16psi, and when he went for 20psi after running thre 11.8 with the 16psi 302, he blew motor???still SUCH awesome #'s...d16 rock on!!!!

yes 16psi was when i made 302, i went over 20psi when the motor blew up at the track.. i ran 11.8@16.5psi...

Apr 1, 2003 | 05:42 AM

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Re: how much boost on Z6 + 14b = 200whp? (Crazy Cooter)

in respect to the post topic... I made about 194whp @ 8.5-9psi on a T3 60-trim turbo with a flat a/f curve between 11.-12.0 coulda pulled 200 most likely if i leaned it out a lil more. On a 14b, probably a lil more boost to pull 200whp.