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hi everyone im new here and I have a question about my Eibach Pro kit.
I have on my 99 hatch a set of eibach pro kit and stock shocks (KYB EXCEL G), and a 15 inch wheel with a 195/50 tires and i think my car is lower than it should be
it supposed to lower the front by 1.5 inches and 1.3 rear but there is no way this is should look like this.
the front shocks and the Eibach spring are less than 6 month old.
this is how it looks like today, can someone please tell me what is wrong because this too low for me
What is wrong is Eibach's lack of R&D. They sell the same exact springs for all 92-00 Civics, disregarding the weight differences between different versions. In an EK, the nose on the floor, rear in the air stance is a typical result.
I thought about it but i run a d14z2 engine
It supposed to be the lightest engine.
According to photis of ek's with eibach pro kit
There is a huge deference between my car and other civic sith prokit.
maybe the the way it installed is incorrect?
Or blown shocks?
Bad UCA'S?
maybe something in the installation is wrong?
the tighter part of the spring is at the top and the other one at the bottom, is that right?
and im pretty sure that the front springs are at the front and the rear are at the rear so i dont think i made a mistake with that,
maybe a wheel alignment will help? Because every hole and bump the UCA's are hitting the strut tower, that happend also with the previous chinese lowering springs.
What country are you in? The springs made for the European market by Eibach Germany are different than the springs in the US made here at Eibach North America. The best thing to do would be to post pictures of the springs on your car showing the part number on the front and the rear.
I thought about it but i run a d14z2 engine
It supposed to be the lightest engine.
According to photis of ek's with eibach pro kit
There is a huge deference between my car and other civic sith prokit.
maybe the the way it installed is incorrect?
Or blown shocks?
Bad UCA'S?
The front of a 1.4l EK is lighter than a 1.6l one, but is still significantly heavier than a 1.3l EG with no ABS, AC or PS. Yet Eibach uses the same springs.
Small height differences can be justified by differences in installed options (ABS, AC, PS, etc) and the actual location of the spring perches on the dampers. They are not exactly the same across different damper brands/models. Also, the amount of compression that the dampers produce matters. If they produce a lot of compression force the car will sit higher.
Given how badly they were designed I would only recommend using Eibach Pro kit on an EK if you combine them with dampers that let you adjust the spring perch location, e.g. Koni Sport and Bilstein B8. But really I would not recommend them at all for an EK.
I'm talking about German Eibach springs. Don't know if US ones are different.
Last edited by KoRn_vIRuZ; Apr 17, 2017 at 02:37 PM.
The front of a 1.4l EK is lighter than a 1.6l one, but is still significantly heavier than a 1.3l EG with no ABS, AC or PS. Yet Eibach uses the same springs.
Small height differences can be justified by differences in installed options (ABS, AC, PS, etc) and the actual location of the spring perches on the dampers. They are not exactly the same across different damper brands/models. Also, the amount of compression that the dampers produce matters. If they produce a lot of compression force the car will sit higher.
Given how badly they were designed I would only recommend using Eibach Pro kit on an EK if you combine them with dampers that let you adjust the spring perch location, e.g. Koni Sport and Bilstein B8. But really I would not recommend them at all for an EK.
I'm talking about German Eibach springs. Don't know if US ones are different.
OK, so to make it a little bit higher i need to get a stiffer shocks.
correct me if im wrong, the 2 springs with that have a flat end is for the front and the other ones for the rear?
It's not about stiffness in general. It's specifically about compression force. In general monotube dampers generate more of it but the two concepts shouldn't be conflated. The effect can be noticeable, maybe 1/4" on a Civic where I went from the stock Showa dampers to Bilsteins.
I would not recommend relying on damper compression alone to tune the vehicle's height though! The result can be a bit unpredictable so you might end up wasting money. I just mentioned it as yet another factor that influences the end result. If you want total control go with an adjustable suspension kit. I also know people on this site have used spacers with these Pro kit springs to increase preload and raise the car that way, but it is not the "proper" way to do things.
Regarding the springs, you have the right ones (better to say, the ones Eibach sells as being right). Your front springs could be mounted slightly better on the damper (the spring should sit right next to the indentation on the perch), but that would lower the car slightly, not raise it.
Last edited by KoRn_vIRuZ; Apr 20, 2017 at 01:43 PM.
What country are you in? The springs made for the European market by Eibach Germany are different than the springs in the US made here at Eibach North America. The best thing to do would be to post pictures of the springs on your car showing the part number on the front and the rear.
What is wrong is Eibach's lack of R&D. They sell the same exact springs for all 92-00 Civics, disregarding the weight differences between different versions. In an EK, the nose on the floor, rear in the air stance is a typical result.
not true. EK are different than EG model number. look it up. what is wrong with your lack of research?
not true. EK are different than EG model number. look it up. what is wrong with your lack of research?
Not true. Although the kit part numbers are distinct (E4015-140 for EG, E4020-140 for EK), the springs that compose the kits are the exact same (4015001 in front, 4015002 in rear). Look it up. What's wrong with your lack of research?
In this TUV document you can see the list of chassis they use the same springs on, it goes all the way from an EG3 to a DC2, passing through EKs and MA/MB/MCs (the British-built 5-door Civics you didn't get in the US): http://www.dvsegmbh.info/PDF/einbau/...99/ABE4015.PDF
different kit numbers, same front and rear spring part numbers.
youre right tho. have a beer.
im guessing they figured the weights to be similar enough when the EK's came out it didnt matter to change springs, but still had to update the assembly number for the new model.
That's cool. Maybe I'm cynical but I think they are deceitful on purpose. I got burned by them and am now extremely weary of aftermarket companies. Most of them cut corners on R&D.
I'd sooner recommend H&R for an EK, as they sell springs that are specific to the chassis. From the TUV documents we can see they are longer than the EG ones.
Last edited by KoRn_vIRuZ; Apr 21, 2017 at 08:01 AM.
While the Part#'s are the same, they do note different ride height in the German catalog I have. (I cant see your screenshots, not sure if it's the same)
In North America, there are different springs used. to accommodate the slightly different chassis.
4017.140 are for 92-95 Civic amd 93-97 Del Sol's
4018.140 are for 96-00 Civic's
4020.140 are for the 94-01 Integra's
Although the drop does seem like more than they described, your tires are slightly undersized for your chassis.
You lost almost 10 mm of ground clearance by using the 50 series tires instead of the recommended 55 series.
When you say too low, are you scraping on everything or is your tire rubbing all over your fender liner?
Problam with my Eibach ProKit(?)
