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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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Hey, i have a 96 honda accord lx wagon. 2.2l 4cyl engine.
Currently 160,404 miles.

Back around 148k miles i did the spark plugs, 3 came out, one didn't on driver side.
The darn thing is like welded in or something. Guess honda did it too tight or didn't use anti seize. Have tried when it was warm, have tried when it is cold. Have used pb blaster + 4d40.
Nothing is getting the thing out, even tried a breaker bar up to 60lbs and it wouldn't budge.
Dont want to break the head of the plug off or strip the engine head threads.
Any suggestions on how to get it out?

Thanks!!
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 12:48 PM
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It's possible you need to completely warm up the car before you pull it out. Heat will make everything expand a tiny bit away from each other, possibly allowing removal. Use this info at your own risk. If it's really stuck it may break before it comes off.

This may be something you want to leave for the Honda dealership itself. If it breaks then they have to fix it not you. Just don't tell them it's tight. Just act like a dummy and tell them you would like them to change out your plugs. Act like you have no idea what's going on. Let them deal with it.
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 08:33 PM
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Lol, they'd probably take it out with an impact and not even notice it was stuck
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
It's possible you need to completely warm up the car before you pull it out. Heat will make everything expand a tiny bit away from each other, possibly allowing removal. Use this info at your own risk. If it's really stuck it may break before it comes off.

This may be something you want to leave for the Honda dealership itself. If it breaks then they have to fix it not you. Just don't tell them it's tight. Just act like a dummy and tell them you would like them to change out your plugs. Act like you have no idea what's going on. Let them deal with it.
Probably will end up doing that, dont want to get in the mess of having to drill it out and or taking the head off.
Just kinda obvious i work on it with the aftermarket fog lights installed, hella horns installed, subwoofer wired up, and aftermarket blue spark plug wires haha.
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rorik
Lol, they'd probably take it out with an impact and not even notice it was stuck
I have an impact gun, just that most people are recommending not to use them on spark plugs to take them out
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 05:39 AM
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At that mileage I doubt it's the original plug, so can't blame Honda on that! (and it if IS the original plug, then no wonder its stuck)

I think a warm engine will make it harder for a plug to come out, not easier. Same reason that worn pistons sometimes "slap" when cold but quiet down when warmed up. Although, it may help to apply PB Blaster, then let the engine heat cycle a few times, that might allow the PB blaster to "work" down into the threads a bit.

Also you can try tightening the plug, if you can get it to move even a tiny bit, you can work penetrating oil into the threads that way.

You could take it to a shop and have them break your plug off as others suggested but IMO that's bad karma.
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by masospaghetti
At that mileage I doubt it's the original plug, so can't blame Honda on that! (and it if IS the original plug, then no wonder its stuck)

I think a warm engine will make it harder for a plug to come out, not easier. Same reason that worn pistons sometimes "slap" when cold but quiet down when warmed up. Although, it may help to apply PB Blaster, then let the engine heat cycle a few times, that might allow the PB blaster to "work" down into the threads a bit.

Also you can try tightening the plug, if you can get it to move even a tiny bit, you can work penetrating oil into the threads that way.

You could take it to a shop and have them break your plug off as others suggested but IMO that's bad karma.
The plugs were last done by the honda dealership. My mother always took the car to honda for scheduled maintenance and stuff.
Ill maybe try a penetrating oil again but it didnt make it budge.

I guess, but at least if honda breaks it, they can fix it. I work in my driveway and street, not a garage
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Does anyone use anti seize on their plugs like we do so that does not happen? Also use on the backs of aluminum wheels to prevent them from sticking
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 01:00 PM
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If you don't ridiculously torque them down to 150 ft/lb as the previous installer did and you don't wait 100k to replace them then you shouldn't have this issue and shouldn't need to use anti seize. I just feel like you shouldn't have to put anything on the threads anyhow but I can see why someone would.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:29 PM
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You should always use anti seize on spark plugs steel loves to stick to aluminum!
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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 04:08 PM
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Antiseize is a must. If you don't have any handy then a little oil off your dipstick works too.
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