So Ive been working on putting my gsr into my 2000 civic ex lately... and let me tell you with just hand tools, and the internet, its been an experience!! Anyways... ive wired in Crank fluc

sensor, and dizzy (since integra was the big style and my civic used that odd ball small style dizzy plug) Im aware and have already wired in iab. Red wire to a26 to the 97 gsr ecu, and black

wire to open bolt hole on manifold for ground(heard this was okay.)... I havent wired the tach wire to the ecu from the dizzy yet (cuz 2000 gsr ecu had IMM, so using 97 ecu.. which

unfortunately uses dizzy and not ecu for tech......

So anyways....I tried starting it... wouldnt fire. But I did hear some clicking from the ecu/relay passenger side.. while it was cranking... I assume this is from the main relay,I acually have my

cousin come over who's built alot of car and just but putting and bolting the ecu in place..the clicking stoped...., He suggested.. finishing the car as if I knew it was running then try starting it

again... But as of now.. I have spark.. Fuel (faint smell of gas out header) and the timing is correct... Im using 00 ex harnes.. with a 97 gsr ecu and conversion cable. as far as I know all the

plugs are correct...Ive extended vtec wires... wired in crank fluctuation sensor to use the civic plug, cut off my small type 2000 civic dizzy plug and scalped the integra one and wired that in.

I see no reason for extending o2 wires...? Because the front one coming off harness easily makes the distance to my header/o2 wire there..so maybe im wiring wrong? Idk It kinda've seemed

like the harness would only fit this one way....I was confused by the IAT being on the top of gsr manifold and having no plug for it.,.. then i realized the civic iat was on the intake tube.

And I just drilled a hole in my aem intake and opted not to use the gsr IAT...

Other info i can give.. I dont have speed sensor plugged in.. nor front o2.I did try plugging them in but to no avail...I know it should run without both o2/iat and speed sensor plugged in...

Im bassically stumped on why this wont start.. I Have spark.. Im 75% Im smelling fuel from the header.. I hear the fuel pump...timing is correct as both "up" arrows line up on cam gears...


And sorry for the first post.. I do believe I was drunk and very very mad at my car...and On the same day while working on my civic...my phone fell out my pocket and smashed..so it was a

very bad day... Thanks for bearing with me.. and is this not a hybrid motorswap? gsr into ex? Should I asked a mod to move this? thanks for all your help

 

Also.. today... I have spark...I have fuel.. I can hear fuel pump... cant tell if injectors are going...but i can smell gas coming from end of header...and the timing looks good.. popped cover off...both up arrows are pointing up at the same time.....Are my plugs messed up? and when i jump to check cel's.. it just keeps doing long flashes... untill i loose count... and this clicking noise seems to be coming from idk...between the fuse box by the battery and the ecu... but not coming from either of them...its so friggin weird... getting so discouraged.,.. anyone? help?

 

I would start by moving this to the '00 forum instead of hybrid swaps. Then I would use sentences with single periods instead of ellipses.

From what I understand it sounds like a main relay possibly. That could be your clicking.

The long flashes count as 10. A short space means it is part of the same code. Long space indicates a different error.

Honestly, the wall of text with no real punctuation will deter any real help.

 

I wanted to help as I have done this swap before but I can't read your "paragraph" and I can't tell what your question is.

 

Yes, redid my original question. So it doesnt look like a mess lol.

 

it still doesn't read correctly because all you did was double space every two lines.

now I know why grumblemarc is the way he is in people threads.

 

Yeah, Grumble has been around too long. I'm gonna give this another crack though.

I also see no reason for extending O2 wires. The O2 sensor is in the same location. You should be right that you don't have to extend it.

This is not a hybrid motor swap. A hybrid motor swap would be a H23A with a B-series transmission. Or a K20A with a F20C transmission. Even a G23 (Half F, Half H series motor) is a hybrid swap. This is just a normal motor swap. The '00 Civic actually came factory with a B-series, although not the EX trim.

I answered everything with a '?' at the end of it.

 

actually I edited it alot because I had made progress with the ball joints...

Made spelling corrections, punctuation corrections and double spaced it...so

let me make this simple then:

Donar engine, 2000 gsr motor. using 97 gsr ecu/conversion harness

car getting motor: 2000 civic ex 5mt.

harness: stock ex, vtec wires extended. Crank fluc sensor scalped from integra harness as was the dizzy plug (2000 ex uses diff dizzy plug).. (using iat from civic on my aem intake) Iab red wire ran to a26 on ecu, blackwire grounded to manifold.

symptoms: Will not start, when cel is jumped it just does a single long flash,
over and over. when not jumped it just displayed a CEL, main relay under glove compartment was clicking when cranking and the speedo was jumping a bit......both these have seemed to stop since i actually mounted the gsr ecu in the kick space. all vacuum lines are accounted for but the one going to cruise control...

Known good things, Getting bright white/blue spark, I BELIEVE i have fuel as the smell is somewhat apparent from the header, timing marks both point up together.. so timing is also good. I used fuel line from fuel filter to fuel rail from civic.. is this a nono? doesnt seem too tight and i just had to bend that little bracket thats on the head of the fuel filter end for it to work.


Just trying to get some ideas to get this thing to start, and I dont have either o2 plugged in...or the speed sensor. or the IAT...currently.. but I did plug in speed sensor..front o2 and iat and installed intake.. and it didnt start either..

thanks for any help. and if a mod sees this and wants to switch it to the aforementioned forum that this belongs into, thats fine! I just figured it was hybrid because the b18c1 never came in the civic.. thats my fault though.

Thanks again! so rdy to drive this thing. very frustrating.

 

I can not remember for the life of me if one long flash is 0 which means you have a bad ecu.

ask a mod to move your thread to Honda Civic/Del Sol (1992 - 2000) section

 

This is the engine swap forum. No need to move the thread.

It sounds like you have a bad ecu or have damaged it from faulty wiring. I would try your ecu in a different car.

 

I figured since I started a new thread about new arising problems.. id post here what the solution was.. Apparently when I did the wiring for the harness I hooked up the ground by the thermostat housing...but I did not tighten it down properly... After some research I see this grounds the injectors... tightened it down. Fired right up!

Now head over to 92-2000 civic/del sol thread and help me with the small quirks, LOL.. and again, thanks for the help guys! Glad I have a running car.. and the gsr w\open header..pulls really good in an ej8. i was quite surprised! Also I Didn't have to wire the tach at all.. soon as it fired up tach was working. this was with 2000 ex harness, 2000 gsr, 97 gsr ecu with conversion harness.. for any future searchers look to this thread for help!

 

Long blink = 10
Short blink = 1
short pause = same code
long pause = separate code
constant light = bad ECU or ground

Hope that settles that portion of it.

 

I had a main relay with similar probs