Transmission & Drivetrain Gearboxes, Differentials, Clutches

Em1 problems with reverse

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 12:16 PM
  #1  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Em1 problems with reverse

Hey whats up. Having problems with only reverse. 1-5 work perfect and have no issues going in. At times it is difficult to put in reverse so i let off the clutch and press it in, to get it to work. Biggest issue is when i back up car feels like it jumps/skips. It doesn't do it all the time either so not sure what it could be. Tried a new shift linkage and no change. Searched and only saw problems with 5th and reverse since they are together, but not just reverse. Trying to get some ideas to see if its a easy fix. Have no experience working on transmissions but might open this one up if its something i can possibly fix.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 12:21 PM
  #2  
EJ1B20Vtec's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

https://honda-tech.com/forums/transmission-drivetrain-127/difficult-put-reverse-2610799/
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 12:28 PM
  #3  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Im used it being difficult to put in gear. But when im actually backing up it feels like it gets stuck and skips/jumps hard. Never had this happen, can it be the shift rod like it was mentioned?
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 01:59 PM
  #4  
EJ1B20Vtec's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

possible, it stated "if" its was low on fluid it could have damage.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 01:03 PM
  #5  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

ttt
Anyone else have any ideas?
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 01:03 PM
  #6  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

ttt
Anyone else have any ideas?
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:18 AM
  #7  
Emeraldbomber's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 887
Likes: 1
From: Iowa
Default

Actuall reverse gear could be chipped or broken. Only one way to find out
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2013 | 07:55 AM
  #8  
94CivicSi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 1
From: Providence, RI, USA
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

I purchased a used tranny that was said to have "no reverse". I never drove with it damaged and neither did the person I bought it from.

When I opened it, several teeth on the reverse gear AND reverse idler were either chipped or sheared off. There are some photos here: https://honda-tech.com/forums/transmission-drivetrain-127/s80-ls-tranny-no-reverse-3139037/

I'm guessing yours may look the same based on your description.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2014 | 01:38 PM
  #9  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Finally had a chance to open up the tranny. First time opening up a tranny so don't have any experience. From what I see bottom of the reverse idler gear looks bad so i will replace that. Not sure if the 1/2 sleeve and the actual mainshaft needs to be replaced? Issue I had was reverse skipped/jumped but not as bad everytime. No problems with 1-5 but recently noticed 1st having a slight change, almost feeling the same but very minimal while taking off only.






Anything else you might notice from these picture i should look at?



Reply
Old Aug 18, 2014 | 07:45 PM
  #10  
Emeraldbomber's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 887
Likes: 1
From: Iowa
Default

Your reverse idler gear is rounded a bit but take a look at the 1-2 collar. That things rough.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2014 | 07:46 PM
  #11  
Emeraldbomber's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 887
Likes: 1
From: Iowa
Default

Replace both.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2014 | 09:38 AM
  #12  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Originally Posted by Emeraldbomber
Replace both.
Ok. So both the reverse idler and 1/2 syncro sleeve. Not sure if you can tell from that picture but what about the reverse gear on the mainshaft?
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2014 | 09:45 PM
  #13  
Emeraldbomber's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 887
Likes: 1
From: Iowa
Default

Originally Posted by JdmRex805
Ok. So both the reverse idler and 1/2 syncro sleeve. Not sure if you can tell from that picture but what about the reverse gear on the mainshaft?
I cannot tell from the picture.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2014 | 07:33 PM
  #14  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Looks rounded out to me.. What do you think?

Reply
Old Aug 20, 2014 | 10:18 PM
  #15  
Runnerdown's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,537
Likes: 4
From: Albany, NY
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Hard to get a super good look, but from those pics I don't see any glaring major defects. The teeth and sliders always look like that. Put it in reverse and rotate the mainshaft to feel how it turns.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 08:11 AM
  #16  
Edgarr1216's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Originally Posted by JdmRex805
Hey whats up. Having problems with only reverse. 1-5 work perfect and have no issues going in. At times it is difficult to put in reverse so i let off the clutch and press it in, to get it to work. Biggest issue is when i back up car feels like it jumps/skips. It doesn't do it all the time either so not sure what it could be. Tried a new shift linkage and no change. Searched and only saw problems with 5th

and reverse since they are together, but not just reverse. Trying to get some ideas to see if its a easy fix. Have no experience working on transmissions but might open this one up if its something i can possibly fix.
Hey did you ever fix the problem ?? Im having the same problem with my em1 ..
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 12:45 PM
  #17  
sportsman1539's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Mobile,AL
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

The 1/2 sleeve always looks that way. Everything looks perfectly normal from the pics. Idk what could cause it to "jump" . I would have to ride in the car to see what you mean. With the transmission together, I would put it in reverse and spin the mainshaft and see if it catches on anything as you spin it
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:07 PM
  #18  
JdmRex805's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard, Cali, U.S.
Default Re: Em1 problems with reverse

Originally Posted by Edgarr1216
Hey did you ever fix the problem ?? Im having the same problem with my em1 ..
Late post but I did end up fixing the problem. I replaced the reverse idler gear and got a synchrotech 1-2 hardened sleeve. The teeth on the stock 1-2 sleeve looked nothing like the new sleeve. Reverse works fine now
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Low2High
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
7
May 5, 2012 06:40 AM
twiztid00002
Honda Prelude
13
Nov 15, 2007 10:32 AM
Mugensr
Acura Integra Type-R
4
Apr 12, 2007 09:56 AM
jtshop
Tech / Misc
11
Sep 10, 2004 08:46 PM
mike2016
Honda Prelude
4
May 20, 2001 03:03 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:36 AM.