Need opinions...big external coil needed for 500+ whp??

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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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Car is a darton sleeved GSR, Makes over 500 Whp, Right now it has a huge external ugly coil , I need to replace the distributer and wanna know If just putting a OEM distributer setup will be fine for the power im making, I prefer not running one if I dont have too. Thanks guys.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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If it works, it works... especially if over 500whp.. Just replace what you need... don't be lazy.. c'mon now.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
If it works, it works... especially if over 500whp.. Just replace what you need... don't be lazy.. c'mon now.
not lazy at all, The external coil is working just fine, I just dont like the way it look's its very tacky , I just wanted to switch back to a stock distributer/coil.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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not too mention previous owner put a see thru blue distributer cap on the car, it's all just a big eye sore!
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Anyone? Would just getting a MSD Blaster and MSD cap be sufficient for 500whp?
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Change to a MSD black cap, and you should be good for a bit. Using a good ignition box helps even more, but if you want to use what you have for now, now?
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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You keep saying how "big" it is yet you don't say WHAT it is. Also, it is called RELOCATE it.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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This horse has been beaten over and over. You will get the die hard people that like to swear by the weak *** stock ignition. They spend 10-15 grand on a setup and cheap out on an ignition system. You can put a rock solid ignition in the car for 250 bucks that will take you to 800+ hp without problems.

Summit, mallory, msd box. Crane ps92 coil r the newer version LX92 has a little more spark output power. Remove ignitor and build yoru self an ignitor delete or i build and sell them. either way thats rock solid system tried and true. Ive been running mine for years not a single issue, nice healthy sprak plugs gaps and a bunch of boost no issues
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Stock ignitions have been proven to handle 500-600whp... Msd sucks
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
This horse has been beaten over and over. You will get the die hard people that like to swear by the weak *** stock ignition. They spend 10-15 grand on a setup and cheap out on an ignition system. You can put a rock solid ignition in the car for 250 bucks that will take you to 800+ hp without problems.
Is this an example of what you're referring to Turbo-LS? .

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Stock ignitions have been proven to handle 500-600whp...
As a matter of principle, Power level is only a small factor in determining whether or not an ignition is robust enough for continued use, and more likely abuse.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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move the coil... all that requires is a new, longer wire to the cap and possibly lengthening the trigger/power wires..... i would personally put it behind the motor somewhere so it can't be seen
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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move the coil... all that requires is a new, longer wire to the cap and possibly lengthening the trigger/power wires..... i would personally put it behind the motor somewhere so it can't be seen
Pretty much..
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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here it is guys, This imo is tacky as can be,Also the see thru distributer cap doesnt make things look better..LOL I just got my Charge piping freshly powdercoated and all this junk is a eye sore..you guys can be the judge.



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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Yes. I remember seeing this in another thread you made. We get it.. Doesn't change diagnosis from the consensus in this thread
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Need opinions...big external coil needed for 500+ whp??

Somehow that thread I made previous, I can no longer find again, either way Im still just trying to get a solid answer, I guess I will go with a Black MSD cap and keep that coil and just try and hide it somewhere so I dont have to look at the ugly thing everytime I open my hood.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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You could start by fixing the hacked wiring, securing the coil, and changing the cap. Just buy a longer spark wire and relocate the coil. You could even buy a bulkhead for the firewall and hide it inside. Many ways around this and it is also part of being modified. It doesn't look to be a full out race car or even a show car. I would have function over form any day.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Need opinions...big external coil needed for 500+ whp??

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
You could start by fixing the hacked wiring, securing the coil, and changing the cap. Just buy a longer spark wire and relocate the coil. You could even buy a bulkhead for the firewall and hide it inside. Many ways around this and it is also part of being modified. It doesn't look to be a full out race car or even a show car. I would have function over form any day.
Right, Thats probley the direction im going to go. It's not a full out race car but not a hack job either... here are the specs if anyone is curious..


block and head machine work performed by Justice Racing Engines
darton MID sleeves w/o-rings
CP 9:1 84mm pistons
eagle rods
acl bearings
arp head studs
golden eagle head gasket
fresh valve job with new valve guides
supertech springs/retainers/valves
blox cams
victor x intake manifold
76mm blox throttle body
hondata intake manifold gasket
PTE 6262
Full-race ram horn
Tial 38mm
S300 , etc, etc

Anyways just not a fan of there taste in the whole ignition thing when they put it together
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:36 AM
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Relocate or settle for OEM style coil
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:53 AM
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Just put an Accell SuperCoil inside the distributor, and call it a day.

I know a guy that stocks them.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by D-Rob
Just put an Accell SuperCoil inside the distributor, and call it a day.

I know a guy that stocks them.
I never even thought to ask you , Derek! Ill be in touch I need to clean this mess up!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:52 AM
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I probably need one too
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:02 AM
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^ that made a good difference for me. Was able to raise the gap and was leaning out at a couple of lbs of boost less then with the OEM coil. That is, my fuel system was maxxed
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Well, let us just hope you don't start eating igniter/ICM's when you go back to stock style. There could be more than one reason they went to that funky external setup. Have fun scratching your head.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Just my opinion about ignition systems, I have NEVER had good luck with Accel products, not in the past 20+ years (no offense to the friend that stocks them). I have, however, been blown away by the Aqua Pulser ignition booster. Their site pretty well explains what it does.

Mike
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
You could start by fixing the hacked wiring, securing the coil, and changing the cap. Just buy a longer spark wire and relocate the coil. You could even buy a BULKHEAD for the FIREWALL and hide it inside. Many ways around this and it is also part of being modified. It doesn't look to be a full out race car or even a show car. I would have function over form any day.
whats funny about this is that "bulkhead" is the correct word for firewall.

Just sayin lol
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