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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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I bought what i thought was a decent running 97' hatch. The PO explain to me that it had a "Mini Me" swap in it. I haven't been around Honda's for a while so I'm not up to date on it. Basically he put a z6 vtec head on the stock block and ran a p28 ecu with a obd2 to obd1 jumper harness to run vtec. It runs decent, just low idle at times plus I don't hear or feel the vtec. I was told that it wouldn't pass smog like that and I would just have to put a dx ecu(p2e) in it. So I got one tonight and the CEL was on and it ran for a long as kept my foot on the pedal. After that it wouldn't start. My code reader said p0450, IACV circuit, and Cylinder Position Sensor. But when I plug the p28 back in it runs as before with no real issue's.

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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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It won't run right with the p2e.

No cels with the p28?
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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 10:55 PM
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Lol off topic but I'm from the h-d to
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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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If it's mini-me swapped, the evap and CPS were probably never installed. The IACV was probably converted from 3 wire to 2 wire. You're going to have one hell of a time getting it running on an OBD-2 ECU, let alone smogging it.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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No CEL's with the P28 ! The stock engine is a D16y7, why wouldn't the stock ecu run the engine as is with no vtec ?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:55 AM
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Lol off topic but I'm from the h-d to
Where in the High Desert ? I'm in Victorville near 395hwy and Luna Rd. Maybe you can give me a hand ! All I wanted was a car to go back and forth to work in without having to specail smog it ! I have no plans for mods, rims, etc. Just want o drive it, my project car is a 74' Datsun 260z that I'm dropping a turbo 4.8LS1/6 speed .
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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The engine is NOT a stock Y7. It's got a Z6 head on it and you will need to run the P28 with it in that configuration. Period. Find a Y7 head.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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^ what he said, plus necessary wiring conversion to go back to stock.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Where in the High Desert ? I'm in Victorville near 395hwy and Luna Rd. Maybe you can give me a hand ! All I wanted was a car to go back and forth to work in without having to specail smog it ! I have no plans for mods, rims, etc. Just want o drive it, my project car is a 74' Datsun 260z that I'm dropping a turbo 4.8LS1/6 speed .
Off 395 and Phelan rd in Oak Hills.

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The engine is NOT a stock Y7. It's got a Z6 head on it and you will need to run the P28 with it in that configuration. Period. Find a Y7 head.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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Well i decided to fill up this morning and after doing so I swap the ecu to see and the car starts and runs and even idles now. It has a weird idle though like it bounces at a certain rpm.

Still has a code but only 1 for IACV circuit, would that cause the weird idle ? I drove it and its choppy kind of, its either on the gas or off. There's no smooth transition. Don't know if I explained it right !
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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So you were told you cannot run it correctly with the P2E ECU and you're doing it anyway?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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Yes the iacv could cause your idle problem
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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So you were told you cannot run it correctly with the P2E ECU and you're doing it anyway?
Yes, is that not the stock ecu ? P2P doesn't fit !
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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It is but you don't have a stock motor. Get a y7 head or keep using the p28
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What is it that you re not understanding?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG
It is but you don't have a stock motor. Get a y7 head or keep using the p28
Do you have a smog hookup ? I'll just use the p28 for now and get the y7 head later.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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No I don't have a smog hookup. My car doesn't have to be smogged
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG
No I don't have a smog hookup. My car doesn't have to be smogged
Trying to see if I can locate a head right now, Thanks !
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