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ej1 w a fresh b20 no start need help

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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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ok its a 95 ex. freshly built b20b with crower 403 cams
fresh rotor and cap
fresh ngk iridiums
new rings
new bearings
hole motor rebuilt
head milled arp head studs
all new gaskets
using obd2 p75 ecu with obd2 to obd1 jumper
timing was rechecked twice still dead on
checked for gas good smell and getting to all cylinders
pump is priming
getting spark
car cranks with good compression sound
burning gas.
fire comes from header so i know its almost ready to start
it just cranks with no start. anyone have this issue. checked grounds and sanded contact locations for good contact. any ideas let me know
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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i need some assistance i cant get my car running..........
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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crank position sensor maybe or map sensor
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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my motor dosent run a crank posiiton sensor and the map isnt required to start the car it would jsut run badly
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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ok so i got oil in every cylinder but had the block decked and the head miled and a fresh head gasket and arp head studs new rings . any idea how its getting there
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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ok so i got oil in every cylinder but had the block decked and the head miled and a fresh head gasket and arp head studs new rings . any idea how its getting there
have to be valve seals unless there is a problem with the rings or a major problem with the pistons but i highy doubt all 4 of them could be bad at once
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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or is thier oil getting into the plug area and leaking through ur O rings in the valve cover? are you sure your firing order is rite? 1-3-4-2 and number one is starting on the rite cylinder first.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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or is thier oil getting into the plug area and leaking through ur O rings in the valve cover? are you sure your firing order is rite? 1-3-4-2 and number one is starting on the rite cylinder first.
oil can't get through the spark plugs unless the plugs are loose otherwise you would not have compression, the most the plug seals leaking in the VC will fill up with oil around the spark plugs

most of the time the only people who experience this problem with plug seals leaking are forced induction cars on higher boost levels which make lots of blowby

if his seals are leaking that bad there must not be much of a seal left but seeing how it's a fresh motor i doubt it
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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crank motor to tdc and make sure all the timing marks line up cam sprockets shoud read up in the up position and then line up the crank shaft pulley to the notch on the timing cover, also check for 180 out on dizzy
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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crank motor to tdc and make sure all the timing marks line up cam sprockets shoud read up in the up position and then line up the crank shaft pulley to the notch on the timing cover, also check for 180 out on dizzy
correct me if i'm wrong but honda offsets the groove in the cam to prevent improper installation of the distributor I.E. 180 out

if timing is off enough though it would not start whether it be cam timing or ignition
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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There is a groove but if you install it 180 out and start tightening those bolts it will go in the wrong way without much force and your car WILL NOT START due to the firing order. If timing is out or if the timing belt jumped sprocket teeth it will run like you have lost lots of power or run like complete crap, if timing jumped enough it WILL NOT START so you are correct
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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its in time for sure thriple checked last night i know its in time i just dotn know why thers so much oil.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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its in time for sure thriple checked last night i know its in time i just dotn know why thers so much oil.
the oil in the cylinders is the problem almost garanteed. gasoline engines will not burn excessive oil like a diesel engine will.

my advice is find out where you are getting oil into the cylinders and that is most likely your problem

someone may have asked this already or you may have stated it, but did the car run before?
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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Default Re: ej1 w a fresh b20 no start need help

well this motor is freshly built and this will be its first start but it had a b16 in it before that ran fine.
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