Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:32 PM
  #1  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default B16 Del Sol. Need help.

My Del Sol VTEC is acting up. When I drive it, if I give it any gas, like, push the pedal down further than an eighth of an inch, it starts missing. Like sputtering hard and the engine RPM is totally unresponsive. I've tried replacing the ignition coil and that didn't help the problem. I'm thinking maybe the ignitor, but also that it may be a fuel problem. Any suggestions? It seems to be getting good spark.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:37 PM
  #2  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Could also be problem with the plugs, wires, cap, or rotor.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:39 PM
  #3  
hexjunkie's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: DC Metro Area
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Ifit is sputtering, what makes you think it is getting good spark?

Also what mods, octane rating, and is the CEL on?
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:44 PM
  #4  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

No CEL. It's stock. 106,000 miles. I changed the cap and rotor. The plugs and wires: no. I'm moving. Can't afford it just yet.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:45 PM
  #5  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Oh. And checked the spark with a spark tester.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:50 PM
  #6  
hexjunkie's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: DC Metro Area
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

well with the spark working it cannot be an ignition issue.... has to be with the fuel or air

have you checked to see if the stock airbox is free of debree/clogs

If it is a fuel issue, is the fuel pump moving fuel to the injectors?
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:52 PM
  #7  
JohnnyWash1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 936
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Sounds like a timing issue.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:53 PM
  #8  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Everything is stock except the intake. Sorry. Forgot to mention it. It is unrestricted. The car runs fine at idle and very light throttle. Once you give it a slight bit of gas, the RPM starts stumbling. Quite possibly the most ****ing annoying thing ever.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:58 PM
  #9  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

I was thinking timing too. I just can't find the jumper to disable the electronic advance in the car. Does anybody know where it could be? Checked the passenger's footwell, where it is said to reside.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:59 PM
  #10  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Originally Posted by JohnnyWash1
Sounds like a timing issue.
This is also definitely worth checking. Use a timing gun and jump the service connector.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:01 PM
  #11  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Pull off the passenger kick panel. The service connector resides above the ECU and branches from the main wire harness. See CEL sticky.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:04 PM
  #12  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Ah. Okay. I'l check the timing tomorrow. Would it be more beneficial for me to remove the ECU to access the jumper harness, then just plug the ECU back in?
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:09 PM
  #13  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

There's no need to remove the ECU.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:11 PM
  #14  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Dammit. I checked already. I can't find that piece of the harness to save my life.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:15 PM
  #15  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Look at Pdiggity's CEL sticky. The plug may be inserted into a rubber cover.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:18 PM
  #16  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Clever Honda engineers.....
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:22 PM
  #17  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

I checked it.

I wish they had some specific, indepth pictures.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 02:26 PM
  #18  
Engage's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: pueblo, CO, USA
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

Bump
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 03:05 PM
  #19  
trustdestruction's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,134
Likes: 1
From: FL
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

The service connector is hidden up in the side of the dash above the ECU. It's in a green rubber cover thing.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:51 PM
  #20  
pauley_lsvtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: madison, WI, United States
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

id still look into the spark issue it can get good spark at a idle and not have enough juice to make it jump the gap at the plug when you get down on it i had the same problem with a civic at my shop did plugs rotor cap and wires and it runs great. do the whole tune up and go from there. just my .02
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:49 PM
  #21  
b16_sol_707's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 808
Likes: 0
From: Nor Cal/ Middle East
Default Re: B16 Del Sol. Need help.

It's probably your timing. If you look at your ecu and go straight up from there under the dash, there should be a couple loose plugs (almost behind the side of the glove box) the 2 pin connector is the one you want.

Also check the gap on your spark plugs since you can't afford to replace them, if they are gapped to big it will miss.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
navila17
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
May 23, 2013 07:57 AM
J's91Teg
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Jan 13, 2010 04:43 PM
Chris_V-TEC
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
Dec 3, 2005 10:32 AM
hatch4raceb16
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
15
Sep 5, 2005 07:20 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:11 PM.