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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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hey, what is the difference between all the engine codes, i want to put a b16 in my civic, whats the difference between the a, b, and c
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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what do you mean by a, b, and c??


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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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he probably means like b16a or b16b, b16b is the civic type r motor and the b16a is the civic SI 99-00 motor, correct me if im wrong
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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yea thats what i mean, which is better?
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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search. use it.

B16a2 - cheap, 160hp
B16B- CTR motor, expensive, but 170hp...

personally b16a2 (from 99-00 civic SI) would be a better bang for your buck.. IMO
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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k well i got a 93 civic with d15b7, which would be the easiest swap
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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search. use it.

B16a2 - cheap, 160hp
B16B- CTR motor, expensive, but 170hp...

personally b16a2 (from 99-00 civic SI) would be a better bang for your buck.. IMO
Actually B16B has 185hp
US B16s (B16A2 and B16A3) are around 160hp
JDM B16A for the EF's are 160hp and the B16A for the newer Civics are 170hp
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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yeah you can buy the B16a3, B16a2 with 160 Hp..

the JDM B16a comes with 170 hp for the obd1 and obd2 motor
the JDM B16a for 88-91 comes with 160 hp..

The B16b is the type R motor comes with 185 hp.. just costs a lot more for that extra bit though..
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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lol he beat me to it .. i was typing while he was posting lol..
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Actually B16B has 185hp
US B16s (B16A2 and B16A3) are around 160hp
JDM B16A for the EF's are 160hp and the B16A for the newer Civics are 170hp
ah, thanks for the correction. it was the B16A that i was thinking of, i just remembered one had 170.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthefollower
lol he beat me to it .. i was typing while he was posting lol..
Hahah don't you hate it when that happens. When someone beats me to it...I'm like...aight forget it someone posted it already haha
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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lol it's cool though.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wrivett
hey, what is the difference between all the engine codes, i want to put a b16 in my civic, whats the difference between the a, b, and c
Look it up. Google. Honda-Tech. Lots of other Honda sites.

There is no B16C btw.

B16A

This engine has around 160-170hp. Different incarnations were available from 1988 until 2000 in several different markets, including the US, Japan, Europe and Australia.

There's the B16A, which includes several generations of Civics. If an engine is labeled as a true B16A (no number afterward), then it's probably from Japan. Remember that you will want to check for other ID numbers and sensors on the engine to ID the correct year before you end up with an OBD that you did not want.

One of the more common types you will run into is the B16A2 (160hp), which came in the US '99-'00 Civic Si (EM1) and some overseas hatches and sedans (VTi/SiR - EK4s).

Then there is the B16A3 (160hp), which came in the US '94-'97 del Sol VTEC.

There are several other variants which you are less likely to come into contact with, but the specs will be generally the same.

B16B

This is the 1997-2000 Civic Type R hatch (EK9) engine. That's the only car it came in. This means all of these engines are from Japan, though many CTRs were later imported to different parts of Europe (and less often it appears other markets).

The B16B comes with 185hp. There is a lot that is special about the B16B, but I won't go into all the little details. Many sites could probably tell you much, much more.

Expect to pay quite a bit more for a B16B than for the assorted B16A engines.

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I'd really suggest you do research yourself. Look into prices, availability, OBD and what you want out of the car REALISTICALLY (!!!). It's better to wait a few years and get the right engine than to rush into it and end up with something that doesn't suit your needs.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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get the B16A.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Look beyond just B16s.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Look beyond just B16s.

that would be good
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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just go K man haha, if your gonna spend money on a B just spend a little extra and go B18c1, get some more torque b16a's are gutless. More like 150 whp to the wheel if your lucky gl homey
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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if your stuck on b16. the easyest to swap would be a b16a3 out of a 92-95 del sol. (but a pain t find)

definatly look into something like a gsr (b18c1) definitely worth it. the torque make a big differacne
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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k well i got a 93 civic with d15b7, which would be the easiest swap
They would be the exact same swap.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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being that the b16b and b16a2 are obd2 and the b16a3 is obd1 as well as his car, it would be easier. he wouldn't have to worry about injector, dizzy, ecu jumpers or chipping.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ian_b16
being that the b16b and b16a2 are obd2 and the b16a3 is obd1 as well as his car, it would be easier. he wouldn't have to worry about injector, dizzy, ecu jumpers or chipping.
X2, sounds like if your looking for the ease of the swap, b16a3 would be the best choice gl finding one w/ ease though haha have fun man, swaps are a blast
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