B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2
10-10-2005, 09:34 PM
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B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2
OK i no Tottal newb Question. But i have been searching for what the difference between the 3 are and its not helping me much more confusing then helping. So someone Help.
What i have Gotten from Searching just makes no sens. I have Gotten that a B16a1 is a Euromotor and a b16a2 is USDM and a B16a is JDM.
Then i have gotten that a B16a Is obd0 and b16a1 is obd1 and b16a2 is obd2.
Then i have gotten that the b16a2 has 170hp(if i remeber right) and b16a1 is 160.
Also what do they come out of? like 2000 civic is B16a2 right what does the b16a and the b16a1 come out of?
PLEASE Clear this up for me someone.
Also i am asking because i am looking at a 96 civic Hatch where the guy says he put a JDM B16a In it. I reall Wana no will the b16a keep up with the b16a2? Or is there no difference.
Thanks for the help in advance Sorry for the Question Asked houndreds of times.
What i have Gotten from Searching just makes no sens. I have Gotten that a B16a1 is a Euromotor and a b16a2 is USDM and a B16a is JDM.
Then i have gotten that a B16a Is obd0 and b16a1 is obd1 and b16a2 is obd2.
Then i have gotten that the b16a2 has 170hp(if i remeber right) and b16a1 is 160.
Also what do they come out of? like 2000 civic is B16a2 right what does the b16a and the b16a1 come out of?
PLEASE Clear this up for me someone.
Also i am asking because i am looking at a 96 civic Hatch where the guy says he put a JDM B16a In it. I reall Wana no will the b16a keep up with the b16a2? Or is there no difference.
Thanks for the help in advance Sorry for the Question Asked houndreds of times.
10-10-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Coldth1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK i no Tottal newb Question. But i have been searching for what the difference between the 3 are and its not helping me much more confusing then helping. So someone Help.
What i have Gotten from Searching just makes no sens. I have Gotten that a B16a1 is a Euromotor and a b16a2 is USDM and a B16a is JDM.
Then i have gotten that a B16a Is obd0 and b16a1 is obd1 and b16a2 is obd2.
Then i have gotten that the b16a2 has 170hp(if i remeber right) and b16a1 is 160.
Also what do they come out of? like 2000 civic is B16a2 right what does the b16a and the b16a1 come out of?
PLEASE Clear this up for me someone.
Also i am asking because i am looking at a 96 civic Hatch where the guy says he put a JDM B16a In it. I reall Wana no will the b16a keep up with the b16a2? Or is there no difference.
Thanks for the help in advance Sorry for the Question Asked houndreds of times. </TD></TR></TABLE>
technically they are all the same, B16A, A1, A2, A3, A5 etc... the only one different is if its a B16B
if its a B16A, its older than a B16A2 or B16A3... older motors are sometimes not that great due to their age, unless a rebuild or perfect maintenance was peformed
you can get more info here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010
What i have Gotten from Searching just makes no sens. I have Gotten that a B16a1 is a Euromotor and a b16a2 is USDM and a B16a is JDM.
Then i have gotten that a B16a Is obd0 and b16a1 is obd1 and b16a2 is obd2.
Then i have gotten that the b16a2 has 170hp(if i remeber right) and b16a1 is 160.
Also what do they come out of? like 2000 civic is B16a2 right what does the b16a and the b16a1 come out of?
PLEASE Clear this up for me someone.
Also i am asking because i am looking at a 96 civic Hatch where the guy says he put a JDM B16a In it. I reall Wana no will the b16a keep up with the b16a2? Or is there no difference.
Thanks for the help in advance Sorry for the Question Asked houndreds of times. </TD></TR></TABLE>
technically they are all the same, B16A, A1, A2, A3, A5 etc... the only one different is if its a B16B
if its a B16A, its older than a B16A2 or B16A3... older motors are sometimes not that great due to their age, unless a rebuild or perfect maintenance was peformed
you can get more info here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010
10-10-2005, 09:52 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (DELSOLEMITE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DELSOLEMITE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">technically they are all the same, B16A, A1, A2, A3, A5 etc... the only one different is if its a B16B
if its a B16A, its older than a B16A2 or B16A3...
you can get more info here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm.. almost there.
JDM = B16a, obd 0, 1 , or 2. Most obd0 B16a's were known as SIR-1, most obd1 were known as SIR-2.
USDM = B16a3 (obd1 only) or B16a2 (obd2 only)
Good reading: http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/b16/index.html
A b16a1 never existed.
if its a B16A, its older than a B16A2 or B16A3...
you can get more info here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm.. almost there.
JDM = B16a, obd 0, 1 , or 2. Most obd0 B16a's were known as SIR-1, most obd1 were known as SIR-2.
USDM = B16a3 (obd1 only) or B16a2 (obd2 only)
Good reading: http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/b16/index.html
A b16a1 never existed.
10-10-2005, 09:55 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
a b16 is a b16 unless is a b16b (CTR)...unless you wanna beat out some details..building them/boosting them is all the same..the different generations and years dont make that much of a difference and the JDM 10 more HP notion is still yet to be proven...your on the right track though..
10-10-2005, 09:58 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Coldth1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also i am asking because i am looking at a 96 civic Hatch where the guy says he put a JDM B16a In it. I reall Wana no will the b16a keep up with the b16a2? Or is there no difference.
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96 hatch is odb2 and the jdm the b16a is most likely a motor from a 92-95 sir with is not able to state ref smog with a 96 hatch
Also i am asking because i am looking at a 96 civic Hatch where the guy says he put a JDM B16a In it. I reall Wana no will the b16a keep up with the b16a2? Or is there no difference.
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96 hatch is odb2 and the jdm the b16a is most likely a motor from a 92-95 sir with is not able to state ref smog with a 96 hatch
10-10-2005, 10:09 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (astroxtc)
Jeebus how much misinfo:
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A is ALL JDM MOTOR, OBD0, 1, or 2.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95, B16A2 USDM OBD2 96-97 DelSol VTEC, and 99-00 Civic Si
B16A3 is USDM OBD1 93-95 delSol VTEC
B16A4 is EURO OBD2.
****.
This is without going to any sites. If you're gonna be a Honda lover, learn something about them.
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A is ALL JDM MOTOR, OBD0, 1, or 2.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95, B16A2 USDM OBD2 96-97 DelSol VTEC, and 99-00 Civic Si
B16A3 is USDM OBD1 93-95 delSol VTEC
B16A4 is EURO OBD2.
****.
This is without going to any sites. If you're gonna be a Honda lover, learn something about them.
10-10-2005, 10:20 PM
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B16a -
89 EF Civic/CRX SiR OBD0
90-91 EG Civic SiR 0BD0
89-91 DA Integra XSi OBD0
B16a2 -
1992 + EG Civic/CRX SiR2 OBD1
EK (forgot what year they started.. 95? ) SiR, Si-VTEC, VTiR (VTiR = NZDM) OBD2
1992 DA Integra (facelift model) OBD1
All are JDM unless otherwise stated.
89 EF Civic/CRX SiR OBD0
90-91 EG Civic SiR 0BD0
89-91 DA Integra XSi OBD0
B16a2 -
1992 + EG Civic/CRX SiR2 OBD1
EK (forgot what year they started.. 95? ) SiR, Si-VTEC, VTiR (VTiR = NZDM) OBD2
1992 DA Integra (facelift model) OBD1
All are JDM unless otherwise stated.
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10-10-2005, 10:34 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diegoaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A is ALL JDM MOTOR, OBD0, 1, or 2.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95, B16A2 USDM OBD2 96-97 DelSol VTEC, and 99-00 Civic Si
B16A3 is USDM OBD1 93-95 delSol VTEC
B16A4 is EURO OBD2.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
at least someone knows something.
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A is ALL JDM MOTOR, OBD0, 1, or 2.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95, B16A2 USDM OBD2 96-97 DelSol VTEC, and 99-00 Civic Si
B16A3 is USDM OBD1 93-95 delSol VTEC
B16A4 is EURO OBD2.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
at least someone knows something.
10-10-2005, 10:46 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diegoaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jeebus how much misinfo:
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95
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looks like i ALMOST got it right... those and the B16a4 are almost never heard of... who gets their swaps from europe anyway? i have yet to even see a B16A1 block stamp.
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95
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looks like i ALMOST got it right... those and the B16a4 are almost never heard of... who gets their swaps from europe anyway? i have yet to even see a B16A1 block stamp.
10-10-2005, 11:29 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (SiHatchR6)
This is the last one:
(I'll leave the Euro out this time, but I do know them as well)
B18A NonOBD 130 86-89 JDM (86-89 Accord, carb, vac distrib adv, no ECU)
B18A1 OBD0 130 90-91 USDM
B18A1 OBD1 140 92-93 USDM
B18B1 OBD1 142 94-95 USDM
B18B1 OBD2 140 96-01 USDM
B18B OBD1 145 94-95 JDM
B18B OBD2 145 96-01 JDM
B18C1 OBD1, OBD2 USDM 170 HP - GSR
B18C OBD1, OBD2 JDM 180 HP - 94-97 Si VTEC/98-01 SiRG
B18C5 OBD2, 195 USDM Type R
B18C OBD2, 197 JDM 96-97 Type R
B18C OBD2, 200 JDM Type R
There are NO 90-93 JDM "LS" motors, and yes, the first ever B18A DOHC was in those Accords with the flip up lights, and it was carbed.
(I'll leave the Euro out this time, but I do know them as well)
B18A NonOBD 130 86-89 JDM (86-89 Accord, carb, vac distrib adv, no ECU)
B18A1 OBD0 130 90-91 USDM
B18A1 OBD1 140 92-93 USDM
B18B1 OBD1 142 94-95 USDM
B18B1 OBD2 140 96-01 USDM
B18B OBD1 145 94-95 JDM
B18B OBD2 145 96-01 JDM
B18C1 OBD1, OBD2 USDM 170 HP - GSR
B18C OBD1, OBD2 JDM 180 HP - 94-97 Si VTEC/98-01 SiRG
B18C5 OBD2, 195 USDM Type R
B18C OBD2, 197 JDM 96-97 Type R
B18C OBD2, 200 JDM Type R
There are NO 90-93 JDM "LS" motors, and yes, the first ever B18A DOHC was in those Accords with the flip up lights, and it was carbed.
10-10-2005, 11:37 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
so hmotorsonline is lying about the jdm b16 sir2 bring 170hp?
http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/...gines
http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/...gines
10-10-2005, 11:59 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (dewoine)
I didn't give B16 power numbers, though I've probably done it 1000000000x's.
OBD0 Euro ALL = 150
OBD0 JDM Auto= 150
OBD0 JDM 5sp = 160
OBD1 Euro ALL= 160
OBD1 US ALL = 160
OBD1 JDM Auto=160
OBD2 US ALL = 160
OBD1 JDM 5sp= 170
OBD2 JDM All = 170
OBD2 Euro All = 170
They are right, as long as the motor was originally attached to a 5 speed tranny. Most times, when you order just a long block, they give you the auto version.
Also, last thing.
SiRII = trim level, not a generation.
There are EF9 SiR, and EF9 SiRII
There are EG6 SiR, EG6 SiRII, and EG6 SiR-S
OBD0 Euro ALL = 150
OBD0 JDM Auto= 150
OBD0 JDM 5sp = 160
OBD1 Euro ALL= 160
OBD1 US ALL = 160
OBD1 JDM Auto=160
OBD2 US ALL = 160
OBD1 JDM 5sp= 170
OBD2 JDM All = 170
OBD2 Euro All = 170
They are right, as long as the motor was originally attached to a 5 speed tranny. Most times, when you order just a long block, they give you the auto version.
Also, last thing.
SiRII = trim level, not a generation.
There are EF9 SiR, and EF9 SiRII
There are EG6 SiR, EG6 SiRII, and EG6 SiR-S
10-11-2005, 09:19 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diegoaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jeebus how much misinfo:...
B16A3 is USDM OBD1 93-95 delSol VTEC
****.
This is without going to any sites. If you're gonna be a Honda lover, learn something about them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is probably the closest to 100% accurate so far on the thread, change it to USDM 94-95 VTEC for B16a3 and it's completely accurate. No VTEC in USDM in 93.
B16A3 is USDM OBD1 93-95 delSol VTEC
****.
This is without going to any sites. If you're gonna be a Honda lover, learn something about them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is probably the closest to 100% accurate so far on the thread, change it to USDM 94-95 VTEC for B16a3 and it's completely accurate. No VTEC in USDM in 93.
10-11-2005, 10:08 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (ek_99_SiR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_99_SiR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does the b16a have 170 hp and the other have 160?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Supposedly due to higher compression but I thinks its BS and they're all just 160
Supposedly due to higher compression but I thinks its BS and they're all just 160
10-11-2005, 10:10 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (ek_99_SiR)
hate to brake the news to you guys but i had a front clip imported from japan (95 eg sir-II) and it was a b16a2 with lsd and honda rated it at 170 hp with a c/r of 10.4-1
10-11-2005, 07:05 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (SkoundrelUSA)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Supposedly due to higher compression but I thinks its BS and they're all just 160</TD></TR></TABLE>
compression is a part of it, less emissions crap can't hurt, better gas less knocking, japan is a much better place for cars.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseballinmyass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i had a front clip imported from japan (95 eg sir-II) and it was a b16a2 with lsd and honda rated it at 170 hp with a c/r of 10.4-1</TD></TR></TABLE>
You bought a JDM car with the lettering B16a2, wow, somebody wasted a lot of money
Supposedly due to higher compression but I thinks its BS and they're all just 160</TD></TR></TABLE>
compression is a part of it, less emissions crap can't hurt, better gas less knocking, japan is a much better place for cars.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseballinmyass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i had a front clip imported from japan (95 eg sir-II) and it was a b16a2 with lsd and honda rated it at 170 hp with a c/r of 10.4-1</TD></TR></TABLE>
You bought a JDM car with the lettering B16a2, wow, somebody wasted a lot of money
10-11-2005, 07:12 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Falqon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Falqon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
compression is a part of it, less emissions crap can't hurt, better gas less knocking, japan is a much better place for cars.
You bought a JDM car with the lettering B16a2, wow, somebody wasted a lot of money </TD></TR></TABLE>JDM clip/ USDM engine, hmm sounds fishy to me.
compression is a part of it, less emissions crap can't hurt, better gas less knocking, japan is a much better place for cars.
You bought a JDM car with the lettering B16a2, wow, somebody wasted a lot of money
</TD></TR></TABLE>JDM clip/ USDM engine, hmm sounds fishy to me.
10-11-2005, 08:32 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
Hey guys thanks for all the help. Someone should make this a sticky or something so people like me can find it in the future!
Thanks again
Thanks again
10-11-2005, 08:42 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (baseballinmyass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseballinmyass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hate to brake the news to you guys but i had a front clip imported from japan (95 eg sir-II) and it was a b16a2 with lsd and honda rated it at 170 hp with a c/r of 10.4-1</TD></TR></TABLE>
JDM clip imported and came with a B16A2
Honda rating a B16A2 at 170hp
Now this info is worse than all of the previous false info combined
JDM clip imported and came with a B16A2
Honda rating a B16A2 at 170hp
Now this info is worse than all of the previous false info combined
10-11-2005, 09:58 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Coldth1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys thanks for all the help. Someone should make this a sticky or something so people like me can find it in the future!
Thanks again</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty hard to sticky it when half the posts in this thread are flat out wrong.
Thanks again</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty hard to sticky it when half the posts in this thread are flat out wrong.
