Im thinking of boosting the stock f22, anyone have any input on that?

 

what du want out of it. HP?.

Lots of minor mod to be done, can safely run up to 13 psi and require perfect tuning.

New-ECU, fuel pumps, injectors, Custom exhaust, Etc.


Boost F22 give U roughly about 200-2??? hp depends on MOd.


Or GO H22 all motor.

 

I have a STOCK boosted F22, what would you like to know?

 

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Be more vague please

 

my friend just finished boosting his stock F22 CD5. made 225 whp. pulls pretty good id recommend it

 

Wow OP, Great job on following up on your post.

 

^^ It's only been one day. He probably doesnt sit on the computer all day like you.

Anyways, to the OP, boosting the F22 is a normal thing these days. It will depend on engine condition/mileage and such. Though some are boosted on 200k mile engines, I dont know how long there actual setup will last.

Also there are many different configs you can run, such as a DSM, or the typical t3/t4 flanged. It will have to custom the d/p, and the i/c piping no matter what you do.

Also, 200-220ish whp is weak for these engines this day in age. The new norm is 250+ up to 325whp with good tuning and decent supporting mods. Like stated before, if the engine is in good shape they can handle 11-13lbs of boost.

 

I had the #2 power stock block f22b1 for a longggg time. Made 305WHP on a bone stock block for 40k miles BEATEN everyday... Alot of it has to do with the tuning... A well researched setup will take you far. Only thing worth really doing if looking for under 300 would be headstuds (you can use the H23 studs from ARP). The SOHC likes to lift the head at moderate boost....

Motor still ran after i took the setup off it and sold it.


Sounds like you have ALOT of reading to do.

Turbo F motors make GOBS of tq, and are loads of fun to tell people they just got walked on by a stock SOHC motor...


Dnt settle on a boost level. Set a HP goal... saying 13 psi is all you can run is not correct. at all. Airflow from a 35r vs a 16g (60 Lbs/min vs like 30 Lbs/min) at the same boost level is not even close. set a power goal, figure out what turbos gonna get you there. Id look at a t3/04e 57trim 60/63 ar... you should get to around 300WHP at 16 PSI. I did.

Good luck

 

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Sounds like you have ALOT of reading to do.

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Pick up a copy of Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. The boost Bible.

 

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Are you kidding dude?
I log in at lunch and then towards the end of the day when there is not much going on at work. And I never get on at home. STFU.
Great 2nd post by the way.

 

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Are you kidding dude?
I log in at lunch and then towards the end of the day when there is not much going on at work. And I never get on at home. STFU.
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Battle of the 08'ers, both of you "STFU". This is a tech thread, not a **** measuring contest.

 

It was a good 2nd post, I had a lot of valueable information I thought.

Why am I being told to STFU when I posted valueable information. I guess thats the thing of HT.

Anyways, extralargenog is right, F22 "big displacement" for Honda, do have great amounts of torque when boosted. Most of the time its pretty close tq/hp numbers.

I dont know if you heard of straigtedge from cb7tuner, he made 400whp on stock internals/block at 20lbs. Didnt last long though as they had about 205k miles on everything, still just shows how strong the F blocks are.

Like I said also, there are many people running DSM setups which is cheap/easy build, as long as the turbo is decent (not chyna). Like a Evo III Big 16g would net you close to 290 on 11lbs and a good solid tune, just watch out for the w/g and boost spike. Def go external w/g if doing a DSM setup.

Also want to make one thing clear, that the DSM setup is only good for the F22ax motors found in 90-93, the B heads are diff with the 0-00-0 setup whereas the F22ax is 0-0-0-0 which is same as DSM/EVO.

You can also run DSM 450cc injectors, which are sold all the time. Fuel pump is fine, just might have to boost up the pressure a bit. To be safe it is recomended to run the Walbro 255lph.

***EDIT, ur name is CB7 which would mean you have the F22ax engine. DSM or H23 manifold are your friends in this build.

 

IM swap is a complete waste of time on a moderately boosted F. Not worth the effort...

 

I wasnt being an *** when I said Great 2nd post. Good info for the kid.
I was just saying STFU about you saying, "you are on the computer allday"
Good 2nd post is what it ment, nothing negative dude.

 

For some reason its not letting me sign out of my brothers account, so Ill just post under his name. This is bagoon though...

How can you justify that a I/M swap isnt worth it? What if he has the F22a1 single runner I/M? The dual runner F22a6 or even the H23 manifold would definately be worth it. Especially since you can get both manifolds usually complete with T/B for under 50 bux. The dual runners, just remove the IAB butterflies since they wont be necesarry. It makes total sense. Also the H23 Manifold/TB is a bigger TB and more air volume overall as a manifold as a whole. Then the IAB plates can also be changed for Blacktrax IAB plate spacers which are phenolic for a more denser charged air. Also stack them which yields 5 more whp on a untuned h22, imagine tuned/boosted with dbl stack.

http://www.blacktrax.net/

Also the original H23 comment was for Turbo manifold style anyways, not the I/M. Since the exhaust ports of the F22ax's are the same as H23. Either way, just more information for the guy about I/M.

My bad to Brad, didnt mean to come off as a dick either, I just dont usually post on HT because its usually so "clicky" and you have to nut swing here usually to make friends or be known. Also everyone is so damn cocky usually.

Just remember this is Bagoon posting cuz I couldnt get signed out, and didnt feel like resetting the cookies and all that crap. Hopefully this kid does come back also, since I feel like I am posting a bunch of info for nothing at the moment lol.

 

my motor has like 172,000 miles on it, is it worth boosting?

 

Cost and effort for results on a moderatly boosted setup??? Not worth it IMO. Its not neccesary. Gains will be negligable, and you CAN just turn up the boost to get where you want to be. I mean **** at the 250-300WHP FI setup, the gains would be next to nothing for the effrort whjen you could just turn up the boost

The IM iusnt as big of a deal at ALL on a sub 300WHP setup as it might on a DOHC 2L+ motor doing north of 9K.....


Oh, and he mentioned he has a B1 not Ax like you were referencing above.


kbai.




Modified by extralargenog at 9:04 PM 8/21/2008

 

I guess thats what it is then, ur opinion. I feel spending the 30-40 bux on a I/M that is larger with a better runner design is worth it. Anything that will provide more HP is worth it, and especially a mod that cheap. The a6/h23 manifold design is far more superior than the a1 and b i/m. Ebay, any JY they are cheap. Well worth it, just not offered for you so its not worth it to you.

And he never states he has a B1, so I dont know where you got that. His name is CB7 which is an ax motor. You and some other guy states there B1/B2 and buddys boost.

 

so what is this "FI" you guys are talking about?

 

holy old thread!!!

FI= forced induction

 

holy damn, makes sense haha i feel dumb as hell!

All H series bolt up to F series trannies correct?

 

yes