Kinda went ahead and bought a '99 Civic Si, mainly because it was a really good deal and seemed to run well. He claimed it had $$ in the motor but all I could tell off hand was that it had a nice set of falcons and a short ram intake. After further inspection when I bought it, the cam gears and fuel injectors seem aftermarket *shrug*.

So far, I only put in a magnaflow catback exhaust(cat delete pipe installed).

It seems to pull strong for a stock b16, and I hope to have someone knowledgeable look under the hood, but I'm wondering what should the next step be if I want to keep in N/A and reliable. The clutch kinda seems to have a hard time catching when I do go through the gears but the clutch feels new, at the same time. Normal driving it catches fine. The header is still stock on the car, and vtec seems to engage pretty strong but at the stock rpm.

Also, the way the vtec seems to engage on this thing, would perhaps some sort of ecu upgrade to broaden the powerband would be a good investment as well. It just doesn't seem practical to have this sudden surge of power when I bet I could possibly have it sooner.

What should my next move be. I was considering a header but I kinda wanted to see what im playing with. I'm guessing my best bet would be a new clutch if I wanted to improve performance.

I really don't have much of a clue about the b16 except I woulda wished it was a larger motor.>_>

 

search and read you need goals my friend get some happy new year BTW.... if it was me i'd boost it there is nothing wrong with a b16 people look pass them because of that number 1.6 i love them read this thread
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2131211

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...and vtec seems to engage pretty strong but at the stock rpm...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then it engages at the RIGHT rpm. Do not underestimate Honda's engineering, the VTEC point is exactly where it should be, they made that mill for 11 years. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SET THE VTEC ENGAGEMENT POINT AT A LOWER RPM ON YOUR STOCK B16A2!

Think about reliability for a moment. The B16 is an extremely reliable engine when left alone. I/H/E wont hurt it, but turbo's and stuff like that take away reliability and durability to a degree.

 

Yeah it pulls better than the last motor I had, the d16y7.
And it's not like it's a total dog, as of now, a stock type s hardly pulls on me, which def. leads me to believe it isn't stock.
It also idles quite funny, as if it has a lope, Im thinking maybe cams? but with a stock exhaust? *shrug* yeah I def. don't want to turbo. I don't have that kinda money or the tools or knowledge to really consider it. I have narrowed it down to header clutch or ecu upgrade but am hoping for someone more knowledgeable than me to offer their opinion on what it might need if I stay NA.

I should probably read the topic you showed me, but with a motor with this high compression, would I need a higher octane fuel if I were to add boost? just seems like a lot of work for something I'm not looking to make too much faster. I plan on buying a gsxr600 when I move to HI mid Jan. The civic will be my daily

 

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but turbo's and stuff like that take away reliability and durability to a degree. </TD></TR></TABLE> come on man.... lets not turn this into that thread.... no point in scaring someone away with BS at least break it down ...don't just say "to a degree".... there are people out there running boosted b16 set-ups for years and years as well as nitrous set-ups ... and then there are the cats that jump into it head first with doing no research..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah it pulls better than the last motor I had, the d16y7.
And it's not like it's a total dog, as of now, a stock type s hardly pulls on me, which def. leads me to believe it isn't stock.
It also idles quite funny, as if it has a lope, Im thinking maybe cams? but with a stock exhaust? *shrug* yeah I def. don't want to turbo. I don't have that kinda money or the tools or knowledge to really consider it. I have narrowed it down to header clutch or ecu upgrade but am hoping for someone more knowledgeable than me to offer their opinion on what it might need if I stay NA.

I should probably read the topic you showed me, but with a motor with this high compression, would I need a higher octane fuel if I were to add boost? just seems like a lot of work for something I'm not looking to make too much faster. I plan on buying a gsxr600 when I move to HI mid Jan. The civic will be my daily </TD></TR></TABLE>nothing wrong with that be safe on that bike..just got rid of my R1 about four months ago ...miss it already and honestly when i owned that bike i didn't want to do anything to my car

 

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Then it engages at the RIGHT rpm. Do not underestimate Honda's engineering, the VTEC point is exactly where it should be, they made that mill for 11 years. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SET THE VTEC ENGAGEMENT POINT AT A LOWER RPM ON YOUR STOCK B16A2!

Think about reliability for a moment. The B16 is an extremely reliable engine when left alone. I/H/E wont hurt it, but turbo's and stuff like that take away reliability and durability to a degree. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, turbo would be for a daily at least in my opinion.
as for messing with the vtec engagement, sure. I just heard a lot about people lowering it, and as of now, it's mildly quick, and then you kinda get put back in your seat. It's kinda a pain.

 

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Might want to think about getting a bad *** alarm system before you do anything else. EM1s get jacked around here like they're a necessity for life. Screw all the other stuff. Get that alarm hooked up. I'm talking multiple zones and sensors, backup battery for your backup battery, multiple hidden sirens, hidden kill switches for the main relay and fuel pump, etc. You get my point. Make your car as underirable to thieves as possible. Worry about the go-fast stuff later.

 

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Might want to think about getting a bad *** alarm system before you do anything else. EM1s get jacked around here like they're a necessity for life. Screw all the other stuff. Get that alarm hooked up. I'm talking multiple zones and sensors, backup battery for your backup battery, multiple hidden sirens, hidden kill switches for the main relay and fuel pump, etc. You get my point. Make your car as underirable to thieves as possible. Worry about the go-fast stuff later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh... Great. I dont get why everyone wants these damn cars. I think they'd be pretty disappointed unless they just plan on parting it off.

I'm hoping to get on base housing, anyway. Being in the army. The rims that came with this car and the system kinda hurt too. I didn't really want either but I'm stuck with them. I think I'll be looking for stock SI wheels soon. How big are they? 17"?

 

Schofield? Ft Shafter?
Stock EM1 rims are 15's and run 195/55-15 tires

 

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Stock EM1 rims are 15's and run 195/55-15 tires</TD></TR></TABLE>
Schofield.

 

That will soon turn into a :crook;
Schofield sucks. Hate to tell you. In the middle of the damn island away from everything.
And just from what I've seen when I go up there to qualify on M16, the buildings are shitty. Just hope that your sponsor can hook you up and get you into some of the newer housing instead of the ghettoriffic WWII crap. I'm telling you, it's pretty shitty stuff.
And living just down the street from Wahiawa doesn't help any. Wahiawa is a pretty shitty area of the island. Lots of crime up that way.
I don't mean to really ruin your parade here with all this, just stating the facts. You might want to think about living off base in Millilani or something in a place that's gated or at least has some kind of covered parking. Maybe even a garage. There are some decent places by Costco along H-2.
Just some options to consider.
Welcome to the island man. Make the best of it. Just secure the hell out of that Si.
&lt;---EBP EM1

 

Well aren't you a bundle of good news. thanks.

 

Boost&gt;NA

 

First thing when i get an EM1 I would invest in a good alarm before ANYTHING else.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hmtcrxsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First thing when i get an EM1 I would invest in a good alarm before ANYTHING else. </TD></TR></TABLE> I 2nd that

 

Thanks for the advice guys, even here, the EM1's are kinda valuable. I just find that amusing how someone will go after my honda possibly before a 3 series or other nice cars. Is it more due to it's value on the black market or because they are easier to break into?

I'll look into alarms. It has the lame stock one which probably isn't good enough. I'll likely go ahead and get the header along with it. Does Greddy make a good header, because I saw them for a lower price than dc?

I really love the car and it's a nice ride. It's amazing though how many idiots of all degrees try to race me on the road, even in bad weather. I bet if I had an WS6 Firebird I'd get less looks, which is just silly.
I think it's time to debadge and repaint.

 

DC Sports = Garbage. You're better off getting an ITR or ITR knockoff header with the 2.5in collector and the flange to mate it to your stock cat.

Hondas are ridiculously easy to break into with a factory alarm, invest in a good one before anything.

 

sometimes even an alarm wont deter thieves they go by the motto "if theres a will theres a way" haha

 

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Nothing short of storing the car on top of a 50 story sky scraper will keep people from stealing it. But it's exactly the DETER thing you mentioned. The more theft deterrent the better.
I used to slap a parking boot on my car when I parked it at night.

 

All these motor mods, hows the suspension looking? A nice suspension investment is always a good place to start

 

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+1

 

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Oh... Great. I dont get why everyone wants these damn cars. I think they'd be pretty disappointed unless they just plan on parting it off.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's exactly why they steal them. Not only are they worth significantly more as parts than as whole units, but just like any other Honda they're easy to steal and easy to strip. German cars have a reputation for being a pain in the *** to disassemble ad most of them are higher profile than a Honda.

 

The first thing to do is take off the DOHC VTEC stickers and the Si badge. Also if it has the stock si rims use those only for winter and get something else. Anything to make it less likely to get stolen. Add a couple kill switches, maybe both starter and fuel. Good Luck.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Endo-land &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The first thing to do is take off the DOHC VTEC stickers and the Si badge. Also if it has the stock si rims use those only for winter and get something else. Anything to make it less likely to get stolen. Add a couple kill switches, maybe both starter and fuel. Good Luck.</TD></TR></TABLE> ok 007 ....J/K