what is the differnce between those two engines and which one would be better for mods, cuz i just blew my motor and i need a new one

 

diff is z6 has 2 oiling holes per crank journal and oil pump flows 30% more volume so it spins less bearings..


y8's have a wierd queench pad making them prone to more headlift and detonation while turboing..


z6 hands down..

if you are puttin the z6 into a 99-00 civic you will need to rewire your dizzy cause the z6 dizzy has the crank angle sensor in it while the y8 has it on the oil pump .. and no the oil pumps arent interchangeable..

you would also need to get a obd2-obd1 cionverson harness and run a p28 ecu

couple other small diff but nothing too crazy


the z6 head flows alot better.. bolt ons wont make you much power only thingd d's like is n2o or boost any more ?'s pm me

 

there is very little difference other than manifolds. the d16y8 has better flowing manifolds. it also has better quench pads in the combustion chamber. but so many of the parts are interchangable, even the cams. i would imagine the y8 would be easier to find low-mileage because it's a newer motor, but that isn't always the case.

in all practical terms, match the motor to your ecu. z6 is OBD1, y8 is OBD2. (or you could just get an adapter harness)

 

imm the y8 has crappy queench pads... thats why you dont see a bunch of 400 whp Y8's cause they detonate and lifts heads blowing the head gaskets.. im pretty much the king of knowing all the d -series setups i have had a y7 y8 y5 and z6 turboed i knwo the pros and cons of them all ...

z6 owns y-series.. both my y -series spun bearings cause of the crappy cranks.. my z6 revs to 8900 all day everyday at the track

 

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z6 owns y-series.. both my y -series spun bearings cause of the crappy cranks.. my z6 revs to 8900 all day everyday at the track</TD></TR></TABLE>

That’s the biggest load of crap i have read in a while on here!

i suggest you do some REAL research and leave engine building to people who know what there doing if there is a such thing?

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=2

i think that makes my point!

 

ive seen this its old news.. his can runs times that low because it wieghs nothing rota is almost running those times with a full body car.. with a Z6

and anywho that y8 has so much port work done to it the queench pads arent stock anymore.. dont try to contradict me on my D knowledge

y8's hate timing cause the queench pads SUCK

 

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z6 owns y-series.. both my y -series spun bearings cause of the crappy cranks.. my z6 revs to 8900 all day everyday at the track</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree! i got a eg hatch with a stock z6 smoke my fried y8 all day everyday and he got basics bolt on's!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondamark35 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is very little difference other than manifolds. the d16y8 has better flowing manifolds. it also has better quench pads in the combustion chamber. but so many of the parts are interchangable, even the cams. i would imagine the y8 would be easier to find low-mileage because it's a newer motor, but that isn't always the case.

in all practical terms, match the motor to your ecu. z6 is OBD1, y8 is OBD2. (or you could just get an adapter harness) </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think it was all explained right there!

 

And yes you can run a z6 oil pump on a y7/y8.......I put a z6 pump on my y7 I know it works, lol. You have to drill the z6 oil pump for the dipstick if you use on a y7/y8 block though. 8000 miles boosted y7/z6 oil pump going strong!

 

so wat exaclty is better with the d16z6 does it have a better head than the y8

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THEDirtyDseriesWOOT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive seen this its old news.. his can runs times that low because it wieghs nothing rota is almost running those times with a full body car.. with a Z6

and anywho that y8 has so much port work done to it the queench pads arent stock anymore.. dont try to contradict me on my D knowledge

y8's hate timing cause the queench pads SUCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

Based on what you think is right, you know didly squat about the subject. In fact you are completely backwards in your thought. Quench pads are VERY VERY GOOOOOOD and the Y8 has better ones than the Z6 BECAUSE the timing is lower.

The only people who detonate on Y8 heads are ones who don't know how to tune very well and run ignition timing so ******* far off that they kill bearings, headgaskets, pistons, rods, etc.

Good quench pads allow you to run less timing, thereby eliminating the amount of time for detonation to occur.

 

none of you biggets know what the expletive you are talking about about ...

but yeah i meant the z6 wont work wiohtout mods.. you also can use the stock dow pins on the z6 oil pump cause they dont line up

 

The manifold/head/CR difference makes for one MAJOR change which EVERYBODY in this post seems to have overlooked. Or at least in my opinion it's the most important thing.

The Z6 makes more "linear" power - as in "more RPM has more power" - which is true on every engine, but it's pretty damn linear until the drop off point at ~6700 or so.

The Y8 is more "practical" - it's got a wider torque band, starting lower, and ending earlier than the Z6, so you don't feel as "torqueless" as you do with the Z6 when you have the Y8 - but the Z6 is more powerful in terms of racing - it's more of a "power" engine.

Kinda hard to explain I suppose, but basically the different flow design makes the Y8 feel more torquey and kinda a better "daily driver" - while the Z6 just seems to put down more power.

Z6 &gt; Y8 IMO - but for daily drivability around town, Z6 &lt; Y8, IMO.

Oh yeah, and the Y series oil pumps suck *** - iono anything about the number of holes in the journal or anything, but the pumps go like "holy ****" causing spun bearings left and right in all the Y8's, boosted and stock...

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If you don't have any clue what I'm talking about just forget about it. It's something you notice after driving them both for god knows how long.

As both my Y8 and my Z6 were/are stock and I drove the Z6 for 1.5 years and I drove the Y8 for like 6 months - I can really feel the difference, they just don't feel the same, Z6 feels more powerful, Y8 feels more "practical."

Like I said, may not make any sense unless you've driven them each for a few months constantly (daily).

 

go z6.

 

bigots, lol

 

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Oh yeah, and the Y series oil pumps suck *** - iono anything about the number of holes in the journal or anything, but the pumps go like "holy ****" causing spun bearings left and right in all the Y8's, boosted and stock...
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Just like to pick up on this point while the y8 oil pumps do "suck!" for "boost" applications normally i believe it is the 4th cylinder that goes first

However this can be fixed

This link should help people rather then simply dash each other about which is better application!

http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?p=341137

 

shimmingis not good for the pumps it puts too much stress on them..

might as wekll get a aftermarket TOGA high volume oil pump that performas better than both and they have applications for both.. booyah