I plan on painting some cars, including my own. I seen some threads about 50$ paint jobs w/ a roller. We are blessed enough to have a garage and air compressor. Im going to buy a "Kobalt" Gravity Feed spray gun. I was wondering what are the basics i need to know.

Kobalt Gun:
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...=none

Such As:
How many coats of paint?
How many coats of clear?
When to wet-sand paint? What Else Do I Need To Know
When to wet-sand clear?
When to buff?
What kind of sand paper?

EtC. We are gonna practice on a friends car that the paint alrdy looks like ****. So i need to know the order of operations. SOME GOOD TIPS. Just stuff i should know. Me and my friend both took a small amount of automotive class's back in highschool, so we know some about body work and painting. Just nothing in depth, we are still Novice. I mean if kids in a barn w/ rollers can paint a car, i can do it with a gun. Thanks to anyone who helps w/ some info

 

a good first step would be to search. there's a lot of good info here that will answer a lot of your questions. And the ones that aren't answered, google works well too.

 

thanks. anyone else did this?

 

i searched and found nothig that is helping me. i see others needing help but nothing really too detailed.

---- Anyone know a Thread/Forum As a walk-thru or a tutorial that i can use? ----

 

neONE?

 

How many coats of paint? 3 medium coats (or until coverage is achieved)

How many coats of clear? 2-3 wet coats

When to wet-sand paint? Shouldn't need to unless you messed up

When to wet-sand clear? Preferably when it's dry (depends on the clear, read the information on the can)

When to buff? After you wet sand the clear

What kind of sand paper? 1500-2000 grit for wet sanding clear

Look at the top of the page, the sticky that is named "Everything you need to know about autobody repair" https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1962364 Also just read some of the posts on this site, you'll find tons of answers to your questions.

 

Do you need to sand down old paint completely before spraying primer and or paint?

 

i honestly did tryin to look for some other peoples thread but nothing helped me for what i need to know. nothing is really in depth.

 

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If you are going to be doing an over-all on your car and you don't need to do any repairs, just sand the clear with 1000 grit wet. If you are doing repairs just prime the repair areas. There is really no need to sand to bare metal (if that's what you mean by "completely"), unless your car has been painted several times before.

 

Does anyone know of a thread that tells your steps, or a walk thru that helps ya out?

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1962364 first thread on the board

 

thanks.

 

anyone have some clever tips on not what to do? from your personal experience on messing up, something i should keep an eye out for of me doing.

 

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i think that would be a good idea. a what not to do thread...

 

What are we supposed to tell you, "don't finish sand with 80 grit paper"? There, that is something you shouldn't do...just read the sticky at the top of the page, follow the steps, if you run into any problems then ask some questions, don't just ask a question like "what shouldn't I do?". There are several things you shouldn't do when painting or doing body repairs, but we can't sit here and try to name all of them. When you run into a problem or need an answer before starting a step, ask a question.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WihaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are we supposed to tell you, "don't finish sand with 80 grit paper"? There, that is something you shouldn't do...just read the sticky at the top of the page, follow the steps, if you run into any problems then ask some questions, don't just ask a question like "what shouldn't I do?". There are several things you shouldn't do when painting or doing body repairs, but we can't sit here and try to name all of them. When you run into a problem or need an answer before starting a step, ask a question. </TD></TR></TABLE>

good point me for not thinking about it.

 

another thing is though, why not just help us out so i dont expletive up my car lol. instead of trial and error. and havig abusted *** paint sesion

 

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I am trying to help you out, follow the steps on the sticky, that will get you started. If you're doing a $50 paint job I can't help you out too much there cause, I've never done one, but if you are going to do a real paint job on your car I can help. As for "order of operations" that's what you'll find in the sticky at the top of the page, just read it thoroughly, then ask a specific question that is on your mind...like "what grit sand paper should I use to block high build primer with". Asking the order of operations to repairing and refinishing a car can be as long as a novel and no one wants to retype what is already a permanent thread on this forum.

 

you need to sand the clear coat a little first with some 180 grit.
then primer sealer 1 or 2 coats
basecoat (color) 2 or 3 coats.
clear coat 3 coats
only wet sand if you have runs or orange peel and with high grit sand paper maybe 1500. only buff on the clearcoat if you sand. other than that you should be a good painter if you are going to do this.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by randomae &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you need to sand the clear coat a little first with some 180 grit.
then primer sealer 1 or 2 coats
basecoat (color) 2 or 3 coats.
clear coat 3 coats
only wet sand if you have runs or orange peel and with high grit sand paper maybe 1500. only buff on the clearcoat if you sand. other than that you should be a good painter if you are going to do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would never go any lower than 320 grit, especially if you are going from sanding straight to sealer. You can get away with 180 grit then primer filler, but I wouldn't finish sand with 180 grit, it's too coarse.

 

sorry thats what i meant.. i use high build primer.

 

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lol, ok that makes sense then. I was gonna say, that's some hack work going from 180 grit to sealer, lol.

 

lol i hate hack work. if you really want to get into it i would seal then do high build then seal again then start with the base. just depends on how good you want it. im an attention to detail kinda guy so i can't work at maaco. lol.