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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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So I'm getting a H23 motor...

I'm wondering what options are available for this motor. I've done a small search on it, but it seems most people are opting out for a H22 swap instead... I'd really like to put a H22 head on the block, but the only link I could find on it was discontinued....

I've heard people put F22 cranks with H22 pistons in the bottom end, but I'm not sure what else/needs to be done for this to work. I'm currently going to school for automotive technology and will have complete access to a shop that I can do pretty much anything in. I don't want to go too over board with this, but I would like to make something for my 4-door to have bang.

Anyone that could help me out would be greatly appreciated!

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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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I suggest you read this before you do any type of H swap.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1998426

And here's more info on H-series
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=362984 - basic swap info
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650329 - h22 swap writeup info
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=434668 - Axles issues with regular H swaps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_H_engine - basic h/f engines explained
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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stick with h22 if your new to swaps. dont let anyone talk you out of one, they are awesome, anyone that says different, either hasn't owned one or has gotten beat by one.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p00n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stick with h22 if your new to swaps. dont let anyone talk you out of one, they are awesome, anyone that says different, either hasn't owned one or has gotten beat by one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Getting rid of the H wasn't a concern. lol

I'm getting a H23 for free, so I was going to use that. My original plan was to build a H22, but when the offer for a free motor came up I couldn't pass it! lol

I'm just wondering what kind of hybrids are available for the H23 block
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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H22/H23 H22 head on the 23 block
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Do a search for "h23"

There's tons of info out there.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95_accOrd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22/H23 H22 head on the 23 block </TD></TR></TABLE>

The H23 is non-vtec. I was wondering if you could do it like an ls/vtec or not.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kuchtaboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The H23 is non-vtec. I was wondering if you could do it like an ls/vtec or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never heard of it.

But a guy named pirate made 240 whp 182 wtq on an h23 setup. he's got a build thread.


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1495684
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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I'm not looking to spend a whole lot of money tho...

and I'd like to have vtec. I want to build a N/A motor, and vtec is killer in that area. lol

I was thinking the H23 was just a bored out H22... but I guess not.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Nah, it's a hella weak non-vtec motor. It served it's purposes.

IMO, unless you want to do some buildwork, sell the h23 and get an h22a
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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shitty... alright

I'm also getting a turbo manifold with it.... totally against what I want to do for this car, BUT it's all free. I dunno how much this motor would sell for. I've heard the H23's are good for boost because of it's lower compression.

I really want to work with what I can without having to do a lot of selling and buying of different things.

Maybe I should just build it for boost, eh?
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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I'm sure there's a thread covering boosted h22's and h23's somewhere.

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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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...you just really want me to not post questions, huh?

I'll search more just for you. how's that? lol
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kuchtaboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...you just really want me to not post questions, huh?

I'll search more just for you. how's that? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just trying to show you that we can't just spoon feed you everything you want to know. We all had to learn. And you're doing fine. It's normal.

You'll learn a LOT more browsing through various threads. And you're a LOT less likely to come up with misinformation when you search because you can contrast different threads usually.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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if you have some old honda tuning magazines from about a year ago there is a wicked prelude with an h23 vtec set up in his car. i think he listed a couple sites he used to build it. fair warning though, a lot of people say it won't work or it's not worth it but i say if you wanna do it, then just freaking do it. i'd get the h23 in the car running and drivin 1st before i decided to go vtec. that way if you run into problems it's most likely an issue with the head and not the motor or wiring.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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^^ Thats not a bad idea... I'll have to look thru my stash to see if I can find anything.

I'm not looking for someone to build my motor for me... I'm looking for some information on where to start.
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