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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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Default #1 F-UP for Turbo?

I'm getting ready to install a custom set-up, in a week or so...I want to know if there is anything that is really common to mess up... it's a 93 Civic EX (D16z6) w/ AC

T-25 Turbo
Greddy Manifold (re-welded plate for T-25 flange)
Bosch BOV
DSM side-mount intercooler
DSM 450cc injectors
Resistor Box
Mandrel bent charge pipe (JC Whitney stock)
Will have a DP made, maybe 2.5-3 in. CAT
Either the VAFC hack, or more likely a custom electronic MAP limiter, adjuster to run the injectors. (I'll get that worked out before I boost)
NGK's one range colder
SS-AN-4 oil feed
AN-6 return
I probably won't have any kind of ignition management right-off, so how much should I retard the timing for 5-7psi? I'll do a search, though I'm not sure how to set the timing to something other than stock...
Does this set-up look good?
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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Also, does anyone know any place in the Portland, OR area to get a new flange welded onto a cast iron manifold? I want to make sure it doesn't get warped and is done right...
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 04:24 AM
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Some comments:

Your oil return should be AN10.
Try making an adapter instead of welding. See my site below.
You may need to rotate the turbo housing to get things lined up.
The T25 needs water. Remember to run water lines.
the T-25 has a special fitting on the oil feed. See my site.
You will need welding assistance for the oil pan and the BOV.

Good luck.
Randy
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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Really common problem: "I bet it can take an extra 2 or 3 psi if I don't boost for TOO long"
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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my timing is retarded 2 degrees, and at 10psi i wasnt detonating. i believe the rule of thumb is 1 degree per 2psi.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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i made a major mistake, i let my gf come over. "you said you would be done by now." only an hour or so left. "you said that 4 hours ago." "i am so board." "all you care about is that damn car."


make sure you give her some thing to do. nothing like a nagging woman to slow down a turbo install.


good luck
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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i made a major mistake, i let my gf come over. "you said you would be done by now." only an hour or so left. "you said that 4 hours ago." "i am so board." "all you care about is that damn car."


make sure you give her some thing to do. nothing like a nagging woman to slow down a turbo install.


good luck
You can afford a turbo and a women??? Good luck to you!!!
Anyway, more friends the merrier on turbo-install-day.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:20 AM
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You can afford a turbo and a women???
O that is another story. any time i say i cant afford going out she brings up the last time i bought something for my car. which is usually the same week.
i cant help it, if i get board i do stupid things that get my in trouble. doing things you like is the only path to having a happy life.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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coertfi i have the same damn problem with my girlfriend haha. it sucks ***. she tells me "you will never be done" and i tell her "its in my blood, ive been doing way before i met you" i dont recommend saying that haha.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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yeah my friends ask me all the time,"how can you have a gf and a car like that?" i tell em it takes pratice.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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i made a major mistake, i let my gf come over
Well you did one smart thing, you let her come over, mine is a live in. In the last two months she has dumped me three times over my car/money spent on car. First she wanted backyard landscaping(rock, grass(not the funny stuff), curbing/border, tree's, shrubs, sprinklers)this was last year. Then she wanted a San Diego week long vacation(which I just got back from). Lets not forget about the wedding and ring she wants and some *** with shinny armor she talks about(knight in shinning armor). I bet he's going to be expensive, the price of metal is quite high(i hope you found the humor in that). Then my kids wanted(had to have)a huge wooden swing set/play fort. Now she wants to tile the house(2000 square ft). Christ I'm surprised my car is even remotely close to being done. Consider yourself lucky!
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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LOL i found your post amuing man... but hey, your car still rocks

take care brotha
sam
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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I keep the hoes in different area codes, so they won't be in my hair.

Yeah, I forgot to list the Coolant lines...just fuel line from the TB?
I was just going to use JBweld and a bulkead fitting on the pan, so I shouldn't have any issues, right?
AN-10 seems really big, I was just going to use 6 or 8...
As a side-note, the MAX boost I'm going to do is 7psi, I think I want to adjust the wastegate to 5psi, initially, just to be safe.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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i made a major mistake, i let my gf come over. "you said you would be done by now." only an hour or so left. "you said that 4 hours ago." "i am so board." "all you care about is that damn car."
make sure you give her some thing to do. nothing like a nagging woman to slow down a turbo install
good luck
ahh, i am so damn lucky.. my girl would either want to help, run to the hardware store and buy needed parts, or just go find something to do
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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i cant lie my gf helped me change my cv joint boot. she was so proud of herself and so was i. she even got grease on her jeans!
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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just had to post... so i can get replies on this... i'm working a pretty similar setup this thread could be useful
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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My girlfriend will come over and will not even step in the shop she know better. All my friends tell me I got a good one. If I am working she just goes inside and waits till I am done. Sometimes hours. She also buys me parts what more can I ask for. I just blew my motor and who do you think is paying for the Build on the motor? Not me I got turbo stuff to buy.
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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[QUOTE]I keep the hoes in different area codes, so they won't be in my hair.

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i do too....works the best

women+money eatin turboed cars= DRAMA(more drama then a soap opera)
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 06:53 AM
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ttt
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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Some comments:

Your oil return should be AN10.
Try making an adapter instead of welding. See my site below.
You may need to rotate the turbo housing to get things lined up.
The T25 needs water. Remember to run water lines.
the T-25 has a special fitting on the oil feed. See my site.
You will need welding assistance for the oil pan and the BOV.

Good luck.
Randy
Ok Randy... lemme see if I got this right?

From block -> turbo:

1/8 BSP to 1/8 NPT adapter -> 1/8 NPT to AN-4 adapter -> steel braided oil line -> 7/16 to AN-4 adapter -> turbo ?

Where does the oil pressure sender fit in all this? I see you have yours T'd off with the autometer sender but I don't have an oil press. gauge so how would i run mine? Don't have the turbo on the car yet but I'm just planning it out so I know what fittings to get.
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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Default Re: #1 F-UP for Turbo? (CivicRyda2k)

Some comments:

Your oil return should be AN10.
Try making an adapter instead of welding. See my site below.
You may need to rotate the turbo housing to get things lined up.
The T25 needs water. Remember to run water lines.
the T-25 has a special fitting on the oil feed. See my site.
You will need welding assistance for the oil pan and the BOV.

Good luck.
Randy

Ok Randy... lemme see if I got this right?

From block -> turbo:

1/8 BSP to 1/8 NPT adapter -> 1/8 NPT to AN-4 adapter -> steel braided oil line -> 7/16 to AN-4 adapter -> turbo ?

Where does the oil pressure sender fit in all this? I see you have yours T'd off with the autometer sender but I don't have an oil press. gauge so how would i run mine? Don't have the turbo on the car yet but I'm just planning it out so I know what fittings to get.
It's actually a 1/8 BSPT fitting...you can get one (actually cheaper than BSP) that goes BSPT->AN-4, the the line, then the 7/16 AN-4. In the midst of this you just need a AN-4 to 1/8 NPT and then a T or two in order to put the stock/aftermarket senders. That's what I'm doing at this point.
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