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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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I started my car for the first time since the turbo install, and it's idling high - 2200-2500rpm and puffing a lot of smoke. The turbo IS getting oil, and I AM running a restrictor, not sure where the smoke is coming from. Stock injectors in it just to get it running and coolant to run through it, but I haven't gotten a chance to reach operating temp. My 750cc injectors won't let it idle and I don't know how to change the settings on the Hondata s300 to compensate for the larger injector. I tried to set them, but it doesn't do **** for me, so I swapped the stock ones in just to check for any other problems. Any ideas? Shouold I take the turbo off and see if there's oil leaking past the seals in the turbo into the exh? Turbo was purchased used.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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How is your drain, and are you sure you don't have a vacuum leak?
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How is your drain, and are you sure you don't have a vacuum leak?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The drain is good. Stupid question, but vacuum leak from where?
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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The drain is a -10, so it shouldn't be a problem. I DID notice a very small leak at the drain though last I checked, very small and doesn't constantly drip.
As far as a Vacuum leak, I created a vacuum leak and the idle dropped and surged between 1100-1500.
I also notcied that the car wouldn't kick out of running rich, constantly pegged, but when the vacuum leak was created(disconnected a hose from IM) the O2 sensor started to fluctuate instead of sitting at 1V.
Still smoking though, whiteish smoke, turbo is not a wet housing.
Any ideas are appreciated.
Thanks.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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The drain is good. Stupid question, but vacuum leak from where?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The high idle.. Could be a few things. Vac leak or FITV are most common.. or if it is OBD2, the evap purge solenoid might need unpluged.

but a smoking turbo either means it has too big of a feed, but since you have the restrictor i would count that out. But you could go with a smaller one. Drain isn't big enough or not doing the job.. or the turbo needs rebuilt.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Veh. is OBD1. I got my boost gauge connected to my vac manifold, and it sits at 20 in Hg, which tells me that there aren't any vac leaks. Or is that a bad assumption?
I aslo have the S2 TB, and I never got the thing to idle below 1100rpm last yr, kinda regretting buying the thing in the first place as I hear other ppl are having the same problem.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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are you sure your didn't mix up the map sensor and tps plugs. smoking and crazy idle are symptoms. the map sensor plug is the one with the green wire.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by building boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you sure your didn't mix up the map sensor and tps plugs. smoking and crazy idle are symptoms. the map sensor plug is the one with the green wire.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i did the exact same ****, i couldnt figure out wat was wrong for a week, till i took a shot and switched them, blew a **** load of smoke out the exhaust and the idle was whack
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The high idle.. Could be a few things. Vac leak or FITV are most common.. or if it is OBD2, the evap purge solenoid might need unpluged.

but a smoking turbo either means it has too big of a feed, but since you have the restrictor i would count that out. But you could go with a smaller one. Drain isn't big enough or not doing the job.. or the turbo needs rebuilt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

where/what is the evap purge solenoid
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Evap purge is on the back of the IM usually w/2 vac lines running in and out, one in from the charcoal canister, one into the IM, purges gases from the canister if I'm not mistaken.
Not sure if I mentioned this, but the car is running pig rich, O2 stuck at 1V and I'm not sure what would cause that. I checked the plugs on the MAP and TPS and bot contain a green wire, one is green w/black stripe, one is w/yel or white stripe. I don't think I have them mized up because I didn't have this problem last year when the car went away without the turbo installed. Even with a stock LS ecu, same issue. Rich as ****.
Thanks for the input so far guys.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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oh so it was running fine before and u never touched map and tps plugs? if you ever took them off and put them back on i would switch them real quick and see what happens. if that doesn't work, do you have any CEL?
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Evap purge is on the back of the IM usually w/2 vac lines running in and out, one in from the charcoal canister, one into the IM, purges gases from the canister if I'm not mistaken.
Not sure if I mentioned this, but the car is running pig rich, O2 stuck at 1V and I'm not sure what would cause that. I checked the plugs on the MAP and TPS and bot contain a green wire, one is green w/black stripe, one is w/yel or white stripe. I don't think I have them mized up because I didn't have this problem last year when the car went away without the turbo installed. Even with a stock LS ecu, same issue. Rich as ****.
Thanks for the input so far guys.
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