well first off, i'm really upset with my numbers. i got my car tuned last month ( 2 leaks, one on the exhaust mani and one in the middle of the exhaust ) and i was very discombobulated.
granted i was only at 6 psi (wg spring), but i only made 180whp / 140tq on stock internals. wtf is wrong? i see people like making 200+whp on stock internals with the same setup...

my setup consists of these things:
usdm gsr
greddy 18g turbo
b&n fpr
ETD (dont think it matters)
dsm 450's
walbro 255
2.5 -> 3 in DP
2.5 in exhaust
precision 375hp fmic
vortech BOV

and it was tuned with hondata s200b all options.

either my car is a POS or the tuner didn't know hondata that well.
it was freddy from SpeedQuest that tuned my car.

oh. and i did fix the leaks. now im just saving up $$ to get it retuned @ 8psi, but i just wanted to know why i am making nothing in terms of power.

 

god damn that is way off, sounds like major boost leaks or the motor is a peice of ****. Cheak everything possible for leaks cracks and so on, but turning the boost up will be a large factor on that setup to make more power, but even at 6psi you should be making well over 200whp on a GSR with an 18G...

 

exactly.

well it's weird too, because on a full bolt on / afc tune i was only making 150 / 120.

even though i DID have two leaks, do you think i could have lost that much power?

 

Leaks will rob power, the larger the leak the more power you lose

 

Leaks will kill power and the more you make the more a leak will hurt you.

Steve


Modified by fstdsm at 5:00 AM 6/11/2007

 

Compression and leakdown tests will verify my thoughts...dunno about anyone else

 

yeah. i just need to get my car re-tuned. i mean, i was missing 2 bolts from the manifold, and it was side by side. i was also missing a gasket on my exhaust.

i'm going to get my car re-tuned by superdave, because i know he knows what he's doing.

 

how did the afr's look? even thou with 2 leaks exactly at the head it will throw the afr's a real lot off... u did a **** poor job at putting it together leaving those nuts out and having leaks and then blame the tuner... yeah he has a little to blame... i WOULD NEVER TUNE a car in that shape... specially with leaks before the turbo.

 

I would say your about 30ish HP/ 30ish TQ off.

I made 238/175 with basic same setup using a SC44 81.5 GSR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chris_tune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how did the afr's look? even thou with 2 leaks exactly at the head it will throw the afr's a real lot off... u did a **** poor job at putting it together leaving those nuts out and having leaks and then blame the tuner... yeah he has a little to blame... i WOULD NEVER TUNE a car in that shape... specially with leaks before the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well it wasn't just that. i paid the tuner to fix the leaks, or just "do what he can" to make everything better. and i paid him to put on the exhaust cuz it needed to be extended. there were 2 bolts for the manifold that were stripped, so i needed to get those bolts extracted, which never happened.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by agrn93ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would say your about 30ish HP/ 30ish TQ off.

I made 238/175 with basic same setup using a SC44 81.5 GSR.

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the sc44 is bigger than the 18g though, right?

 

hmm.. did boost hold at 6lbs even with the exhaust manifold leak? when did boost come in? Was it a major exhaust manifold leak? the most probably cause of ur low hp, like everyone exclaimed is due to ur exhaust leaks b4 the turbo. With 6lbs u should be at least 240-250 if not more! and as a side note... ur and idiot for bringing in a car thats not fully done

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the sc44 is bigger than the 18g though, right? </TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah to the best of my knowledge but at those boost levels its not gonna be that much different and also i gave you a cushion for that very reason i said 30ish instead of 40 ish you are 40ish lower than me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyberdx16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ur and idiot for bringing in a car thats not fully done </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. Should went over everything and make sure there is no problem with it before taking it to the dyno. Can't blame nobody except yourself. I believe the tuner did the best he can with what he have to work with. Let this be a lesson learn.

 

this is true.
but i didn't bring it in just for a dyno tune.
i asked to get everything that was messed up fixed, which includes my leaks. did they do their job? no.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats wrong with my setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">greddy 18g turbo
2.5 -&gt; 3 in DP
2.5 in exhaust
my car is a POS . </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol sorry had to do it

 

thanks chief.

 

just messin with ya.