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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Just wondering what you guys have to say about turboing a LS motor? Good? Bad?
Reasoning behind your answers would be much appreciated
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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In my opinion the Turbo-LS is ******* awesome.

to that build.

And if you just happen to throw a rod b/c you're beating on it too hard, pick another one up for 200-400 bucks.

They're like the D's of the B's if you know what I mean. Ownage boost.

Go for it.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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You know what would be a safe psi level for a stock engine?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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8-10 psi
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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ls is good because it has lower compression. But reliability is all in the tune!!
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Malakai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8-10 psi</TD></TR></TABLE>

True.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llteddy4playll &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls is good because it has lower compression. But reliability is all in the tune!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

And true, .
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Malakai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8-10 psi</TD></TR></TABLE>

How can you say that? You don't know what size turbo, or what else he has done to the motor, cams, intake manifold, ect. You need to explain a motor can only handle so much power. I would say 275whp with a good tune to keep it safe.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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its all in the tune on how much boost you can run. Its really about the power as suggested above.^^

I made 300 whp on pump gas with my B18b but about a month later it blew a headgasket. I threw some head studs and a cometic head gasket on there and its been perfect ever since.

SO I SAY GO FOR IT. JUST DO IT RIGHT.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How can you say that? You don't know what size turbo, or what else he has done to the motor, cams, intake manifold, ect. You need to explain a motor can only handle so much power. I would say 275whp with a good tune to keep it safe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Although you're right - it does depend on turbo size, 8-10psi is a good "average" level as a "safe zone" assuming you're using a "average" size turbo.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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I have done a little searching and I just want to know what websites that you guys think that are reliable. I've google searched a couple but I still think some of them are kind of shady. Just wondering where you got your turbo kits from?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have done a little searching and I just want to know what websites that you guys think that are reliable. I've google searched a couple but I still think some of them are kind of shady. Just wondering where you got your turbo kits from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody (well not "nobody" - but a lot of people) buys a turbo kit. Either you piece together your own or you buy a kit that somebody else pieced together on their own.

Usually for light boost DSM (eclipse or talon preferably) is good for a SMIC, saturated injectors, and the turbo. Piping is up to you, as the rest of the ****.

The reason why people get away with turbo kits so cheap is they shop around for good prices and buy **** used.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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http://www.full-race.com
http://www.phoenixturbo.com
http://www.atpturbo.com

depends on how much you want to spend
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Ok i've done a little piecing together of my own "turbo kit" and this is what I have come up so far.
Walbro In Tank Installation Kit
Walbro In-Tank Fuel Pump 255 lph
Sard R2D2 BOV
Tial 38mm wastegate
Garrett T3/T4 57trim .63ar exhaust
Hondata S200B
Full-Race Intercooler
RC 550cc injectors
Fast turbo oil lines
2.5 in open downpipe
2" pipe off of the turbo, 2.25" to the TB
Please what let me know what I still need/what I'm missing.
Thanks for all your help guys!
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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bump
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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what about a turbo manifold? open downpipe?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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YES YOU DO NEED THEM....MANIFOLD IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE TURBO....
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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see its a good thing that I'm asking you guys to check the kit!
Did a little research and the majority of people are using Rev-Hard Intake manifold.
How does it look so far?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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intake manifold or turbo manifold?


i would use an inline pro cast piece for something not too expensive yet gets the job done.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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what would you recommend
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would you recommend</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're going to need a turbo manifold with that setup. With how expensive you're making this you obviously have the $$$ to spend so might as though go with an equal length turbo mani.

Also, you gonna be running manual wastegate or boost controller? Might want to add an oil pressure & boost gauge to that list. Boost gauge for obvious reasons but the oil pressure b/c when something goes wrong (ie. you're about to throw a rod) the oil pressure will usually jump around for a few b4 you fry the motor. Smart deal on turbo setups, although more commonly used on big-block setups - one must assume the concept is still the same.

Oh yeah, and you don't need Hondata, IMO it's a waste of money for the power you're going to be putting out. Chipped P28 on Chrome pro will make things work fine .

Get it dyno tuned as well, I wouldn't street tune a build like that.

Also, if you're aiming as high as you seem to be, what the hell kind of engine enforcements are you using? Head Studs? Forged rods? Low comp pistons? If you're gonna rev harder you're gonna need spring work.

****, might even be worth boring it to a 1.85 or 1.9 (if possible) while you have everything torn apart.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Though you said you wanna use stock internals.

So if you're using stock internals I'm rather confused as expletive as to why (when building a setup for only 10-13psi you're using only top of the line parts?

You aren't really building a high end drag setup here, but you're picking all good parts - which is a complete waste of money. If you were aiming higher in terms of HP then I'd say most definitely, but a max out on stock internals is a very mild turbo build and does not BY FAR need all the name brand, top of the line crap you're putting into it.

If you're gonna ditch all the money buying all that ****, might as well buy a kit, or build that kit, and boost harder with aftermarket internals.

What you're doing isn't exactly making a whole lot of sense.
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