Ok helping a guy fix a car thats pretty tore up

96-98 LX
obd-0 B16a
obd1 distributor
obd2-1 conversion harness
chipped ecu
oil is good

now he brought me the car and it was running like total ***.. bogging like no other. Vtec will cross but it straight falls on its face

so i have tried a stock ecu, different conversion harness, and a good distributor and NOTHING
checked all the wiring and fixed a few little things.. so thats ok
NO CEL's

so looking at the distributor wiring and some of the colors didnt line up to my buddies car that i pulled the distributor off of so i changed them to match and now blah car doesnt run.. well i just happen to forget how the wires were before

so on the harness side i have and this is looking at the plug

harness side
top
Yellow with blue
Blue with green
orange with blue
orange

bottom

Blue-yellow
white- blue
white
empty


distributor side
top
yellow-green
blue- green
peach- blue
peach

bottom
blue-yellow
white-blue
white
empty

im almost positive that when the swap was done 1 or 2 of the wires were possibly mixed up.. I need to get these back to right so i can get the car running

 

any insight?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Timmay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
harness side
top
Yellow with blue
Blue with green
orange with blue
orange

bottom

empty
Blue-yellow
white- blue
white


distributor side
top
yellow-green
blue- green
peach- blue
peach

bottom
blue-yellow
white-blue
white
empty

im almost positive that when the swap was done 1 or 2 of the wires were possibly mixed up.. I need to get these back to right so i can get the car running</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only difference I see with what you have going on there is the locations of the OBD2 wires in the plug. I switched them above....but the colors going are correct.

You have no codes, but do you have spark?

 

yea it was running before i switched the wires.. no CEL's but it was just bogging bad.. it almost seemed the person that did the swap maybe got a wire mixed up when re pinning the plugs or something..

180 compression
tried a good ecu, distributor , 2 different conversion harness.. wiring is right

 

obd0 b16 in OBD2 vehicle = ick.

Is there fuel in the car?

What injectors are being used?

you positive the the ecu works?

Have ya tried the OBD1 ecu in another vehicle to single out that ecu isn't the problem here?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">obd0 b16 in OBD2 vehicle = ick.

Is there fuel in the car?

What injectors are being used?

you positive the the ecu works?

Have ya tried the OBD1 ecu in another vehicle to single out that ecu isn't the problem here?</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock injectors
yes
yes

it was running when it came to me but very very poor. it was bogging and when vtec would cross it would just basicly fall on its face.. I change the distributor wiring and now it doenst work

 

well i used katman's wiring deal found out what pinout each sensor went to and matched them up to the correct wire on the distributor.. runs now but still not 100% par

thanks for the help guys

 

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stock injectors
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock OBD0 B16 injectors?

if so, hm, those should technically work with an OBD1 ecu, but you might want to try out a set of OBD1 injectors.

also, are all the ground wires grounded properly? (tranny to frame rail, valve cover to rad support, wire harness grounded to thermostat housing area)

 

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Stock OBD0 B16 injectors?

if so, hm, those should technically work with an OBD1 ecu, but you might want to try out a set of OBD1 injectors.

also, are all the ground wires grounded properly? (tranny to frame rail, valve cover to rad support, wire harness grounded to thermostat housing area)</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock obd2 injectors.. but thanks to your charts it got it all running good now

 

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stock obd2 injectors.. but thanks to your charts it got it all running good now</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh word

soo its all running good now eh?

 

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oh word

soo its all running good now eh?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its running ok

NO CEL's but when vtec crosses over its really boggy untill about 6500 ish then it seems to pull ok.. right now its on a stock p30.. I think the car needs a good valve adjustment.. other than that im stumped

 

OBD2 / OBD1
Blue / Blu-Grn
Red / Wht-Blu
Green / Org-Blu
Blk / Wht
Wht / Blu-Yel
Yel / Org
Yel/Grn / Yel-Grn
Blk/Yel / Blk Yel

 

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OBD2 / OBD1
Blue / Blu-Grn
Red / Wht-Blu
Green / Org-Blu
Blk / Wht
Wht / Blu-Yel
Yel / Org
Yel/Grn / Yel-Grn
Blk/Yel / Blk Yel



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ive already got the wiring done
used this http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/wiring.obd2a.htm

and this
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1641544

 

yeah you might need some basic tuning right now. Also the older OBD0 B16A engines have really shitty cam profiles, especiall the Auto B16 cams....they really suck. I suggest upgrading to a pair of 92+ B16, 94+ GSR, or even ITR/CTR cams...

 

yea but all the ecu's work great on other cars besides this one

im thinking something is wrong with the obd2-1 harness, or maybe a weak distributor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Timmay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea but all the ecu's work great on other cars besides this one

im thinking something is wrong with the obd2-1 harness, or maybe a weak distributor</TD></TR></TABLE>

you could be right.
Ignition issues will show crappy engine performance, bogging, lag in power....

Try swapping out the coil and ignitor in the dizzy. And if you didn't know, you can use 92-95 SOHC dizzy coil & ignitors in an OBD1 B-series dizzy...