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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Hey i have a Single Cam vtec, i have an ECU that doesnt have vtec, where could i hook up the vtec wire too to make vtec kick in?
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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A toggle switch, but maybe you should just buy a P28 ecu. The only nice thing about a toggle switch is that you can engage VTEC at your convenience.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by O RLY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A toggle switch, but maybe you should just buy a P28 ecu. The only nice thing about a toggle switch is that you can engage VTEC at your convenience.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That won't do anything but let the cam go into it's more aggressive cam setting.

For VTEC to work you need to the proper ECU. For a 92-95 SOHC VTEC you need a P28. I don't know what you need for a Y8.

A toggle switch will let you switch to your car's more aggressive cam lobing, but it won't change the ignition or fuel maps.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That won't do anything but let the cam go into it's more aggressive cam setting.

For VTEC to work you need to the proper ECU. For a 92-95 SOHC VTEC you need a P28. I don't know what you need for a Y8.

A toggle switch will let you switch to your car's more aggressive cam lobing, but it won't change the ignition or fuel maps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So true...buy a P28...sorry I misled you...I ran a toggle switch, but had a P30.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

For VTEC to work you need to the proper ECU. For a 92-95 SOHC VTEC you need a P28. I don't know what you need for a Y8.

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Correct...and an addition

92-95 SOHC VTEC --- P28
96-00 SOHC VTEC --- P2P

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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I like the toggle switch idea, wire it to a horn button. Who needs NAWWWZ
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Everyone is right. The other thing you could do is get a vtec controller.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicEXtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like the toggle switch idea, wire it to a horn button. Who needs NAWWWZ</TD></TR></TABLE>

Switching over to VTEC at any point other than the factory setting will net less horsepower.

Honda engineered VTEC to utilize the optimum power range of both cam lobes. It's pointless to change what they have already designed.

Installing the correct ECU is the only way to go.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Installing the correct ECU is the only way to go. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIRDISTHEWORD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everyone is right. The other thing you could do is get a vtec controller.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That still doesn't do anything but switch to the more aggressive cam lobes. VTEC controllers do not add more fuel or change timing.

Hell, you can hook your VTEC up to a horn, a LED, a toggle swtich, and a dumbbell if you want; but it's not going to do anything.

If you are running a standalone you may be able to get a few extra HP out of changing your VTEC crossover point and changing your fuel/ignition maps.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Switching over to VTEC at any point other than the factory setting will net less horsepower.

Honda engineered VTEC to utilize the optimum power range of both cam lobes. It's pointless to change what they have already designed.

Installing the correct ECU is the only way to go. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but if you wired it to a switch, couldn't you just turn it off to save gas?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicEXtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but if you wired it to a switch, couldn't you just turn it off to save gas?</TD></TR></TABLE>

or you could save gas by not revving that high and keeping throttle input to a minimum. Don't put it on a switch, get the right ecu. Those of you who think its a a good idea to use a switch need to read up on fuel and ignition maps, you have a lot to learn about them.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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just buy a P28.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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you really don't wanna go through all that trouble running a couple wires for the v-tec to work, just buy a p28 for about 130-150 and you be fine.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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As most others said..P28 . Get a P28 and be done with dat shiz. Around here I couldn't find a Manual P28..I picked up an auto P28 and converted it. Been in there for about 1 1/2 months now and loving it
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