Oil Return line that goes on the drain plug, by Greddy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:57 AM
  #1  
KDoGx504's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, Ca, USA
Default Oil Return line that goes on the drain plug, by Greddy

I was wondering, if this will work for a 96-00 civic? If you go to http://www.Greddy.com and look under the TECH section. Click on the CIVIC EP3 TURBO KIT Part 1. Under Section 3-7, you will see that a picture where Greddy made the oil return line that uses a banjo bolt, and bolts in place of the original drain plug. Will this work for my civic, instead of welding a return flange, I want this setup so I can install and uninstall turbo on my car. Is there anything wrong with this set up?
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:35 AM
  #2  
boostedDA's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 881
Likes: 0
From: Spartanburg, SC, USA
Default

I don't see how it could work without messing up the turbo. The drain bolt is at the lowest point on the oil pan so the oil will drain. You want the oil return line to be as high as possible so the oil won't back up into the turbo. Get what I'm saying?
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:20 AM
  #3  
mugencivic94's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 539
Likes: 0
From: kernersville, NC, Usa
Default Re: (boostedDA)

i agree its too low if you do this you will shoot oil out from your turbo and everything you need it high not low
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:53 PM
  #4  
KDoGx504's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, Ca, USA
Default Re: (mugencivic94)

Thats what i was thinking, I was wondering how can greddy make a return line that low and make it work. Oh well, I guess I will get my return flange welded on the oil pan, and plug it up if i ever need to remove the turbo. I am thinking this mostly for smog since i am in California.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:02 AM
  #5  
beepy's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,451
Likes: 1
From: Pearl City, HI, USA
Default Re: (KDoGx504)

The question should really be, "Why does having the oil drain too low cause problems?" If you think about it as a siphon, there should be no difference at all having the drain above the oil line or below it. Gravity will keep the level of oil inside the drain line equal to the oil level in the pan.

There can be only one explanation that I can think of: Viscosity. Oil is thick enough that it doesn't drain quite fast enough when it has to siphon. But Greddy probalbly just constrict the feed line significantly. This should be fine. I have been running my turbo for 2 years with the feed consting of a -3AN brake line (about 1/2 of the cross section of normal -3AN) with a 1mm restrictor, and the oil dribbles in. Once I forgot to hook the line up and started the car. I lost about a pint of oil in 30 seconds.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:22 AM
  #6  
DaveF's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 16,905
Likes: 3
From: Lansdale, PA
Default Re: (beepy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> a -3AN brake line (about 1/2 of the cross section of normal -3AN) </TD></TR></TABLE>

any pics of this?
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:24 AM
  #7  
boostedcivicsir's Avatar
Mr. Badwrench
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 14,146
Likes: 2
From: stranger in a strange land
Default Re: (beepy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The question should really be, "Why does having the oil drain too low cause problems?" If you think about it as a siphon, there should be no difference at all having the drain above the oil line or below it. Gravity will keep the level of oil inside the drain line equal to the oil level in the pan.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why this works. well said. there is no problem with this. there are a few other kits that do the sanme thing.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:07 PM
  #8  
KDoGx504's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, Ca, USA
Default Re: (boostedcivicsir)

Cool, I probably will do this set up for my car then, then I dont have to get it welded. Thanks
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:15 PM
  #9  
rioninja's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,331
Likes: 2
From: Philadelphia, PA
Default Re: Oil Return line that goes on the drain plug, by Greddy (KDoGx504)

IF the crankcase is properly ventilated, you wont have any problems. There are a few factory turbocharged cars that have oil drains that are damn low.
The big word is "IF" though, since a lot of people you see having problems dont have a properly vented setup.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:18 PM
  #10  
1FastCoupe's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
From: Boca Raton, Florida, US
Default

If you dont have the time and the patience to do it right...When will you have the time to do it again..Unbolt the oil pan and spend 10 bucks to have a -10 fitting welded in. It took me an hour to complete the whole thing. Why chance messing up your turbo..
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FeedBack159
Honda CR-V & Element
17
Mar 17, 2014 09:35 PM
civictypenos
Forced Induction
19
Jul 18, 2005 01:54 PM
Ad4mGSR
Forced Induction
3
Jun 4, 2004 12:32 AM
PHiZ
Forced Induction
7
Jul 15, 2003 10:28 PM
JPowers
Forced Induction
4
Jul 11, 2002 08:15 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:04 AM.