how many turbo guys are running stock head gasket
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im about to start my turbo project and i chose not to use the thicker head gasket to lower my comp. i have a stock block for now getting built for the winter. ive heard many stories what you can and can not do, but anything is possible with good tunning!
so i was wondering how many people are running on stock compression, what psi are you running on pump gas. and what are you running on race gas. i know you can run more boost on the lower compression but you also lose power . if you use a 2mm thicker gasket that will drop around 9 something somewhere around 30-40 pending mods, i know what my goals are and stock block wont cut it. but it will keep me happy for a few months. after talking to a few shops that done h22s they vary 430-465whp get better pistons and rod rings 480-500whp. dont hold me to this as i did not ask for dynos. i spent aleast 45-hr talking in person to these people and putting the facts together that suppoted each other. bottem line sleeve block lots of power! so if you our blocks can only handle so much lets say on the power side with deacent drive(keep in mind traction!) 350-380whp=420-456flywheel which is damn good. from what ive seen pep. that are running thinker hg on stock block are getiing 250-290 give or take for turbo and tuning at 8-9psi oh also take for us/jdm would be the higher numbers i have jdm. so if you keep stock comp your around 280-320 and better tork. =better hole shot faster spool! so i would like to know what psi your running and what kind of power your running. THANKS Ps sorry for it being so long did not want people yelling go search just whated to be detailed about why im asking.
so i was wondering how many people are running on stock compression, what psi are you running on pump gas. and what are you running on race gas. i know you can run more boost on the lower compression but you also lose power . if you use a 2mm thicker gasket that will drop around 9 something somewhere around 30-40 pending mods, i know what my goals are and stock block wont cut it. but it will keep me happy for a few months. after talking to a few shops that done h22s they vary 430-465whp get better pistons and rod rings 480-500whp. dont hold me to this as i did not ask for dynos. i spent aleast 45-hr talking in person to these people and putting the facts together that suppoted each other. bottem line sleeve block lots of power! so if you our blocks can only handle so much lets say on the power side with deacent drive(keep in mind traction!) 350-380whp=420-456flywheel which is damn good. from what ive seen pep. that are running thinker hg on stock block are getiing 250-290 give or take for turbo and tuning at 8-9psi oh also take for us/jdm would be the higher numbers i have jdm. so if you keep stock comp your around 280-320 and better tork. =better hole shot faster spool! so i would like to know what psi your running and what kind of power your running. THANKS Ps sorry for it being so long did not want people yelling go search just whated to be detailed about why im asking.
1) get out of here
2) there are turbo guys with turbo gaskets and turbo information in the turbo forum
3) punctuate that avalanche of bs
4) search you classic idiot style turbo *****
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2) there are turbo guys with turbo gaskets and turbo information in the turbo forum
3) punctuate that avalanche of bs
4) search you classic idiot style turbo *****
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Well to answer your question, you can make awsome power, on race gas and and awsome tuner! High octane gas and like 15lbs is possible on stock bottom end. That right there depending on the turbo is 300-400whp.
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ah mr 10k posts himself speaks the thruth, i am also on a stock head gasket.
ah mr 10k posts himself speaks the thruth, i am also on a stock head gasket.
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thanks everybody it really boils down to haveing the right turbo for the job and good tunnig with a good top combo 350-390whp is within range. that should keep calm for a min. until the built bottom.
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All they do is add/subtract from the height of the block or head basically, playing with the cam timing. The proper way to mess with compression is to use higher/lower compression pistons in combination with the head of your choice.
Stock headgasket is the way to go.
All they do is add/subtract from the height of the block or head basically, playing with the cam timing. The proper way to mess with compression is to use higher/lower compression pistons in combination with the head of your choice.
Stock headgasket is the way to go.
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ROFLMAO
i think ur gonna get a good idea what weak ringlands mean-
ROFLMAO
i think ur gonna get a good idea what weak ringlands mean-
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