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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Right now i'm running a ls motor/tranny in my ek coupe. Only mod besides suspension is intake. I recently raced my friends 98 gti with VR6 motor and I actually had the lead until 3rd gear and then he kept pulling on me.

I have heard that the b16 tranny does really well with the LS motor. I definately want to swap it in there with a new clutch and flywheel.

Is the findanza 7.5 too light, and also, how much difference will I notice in acceleration with this tranny. I have heard some people claim as much as .5 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

I'm sick and tired of my car feeling like a wounded dog after second gear.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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get the b16 tranny, you will be very happy. it will seem like it goes through the gears 5x faster. IMO dont waste your money on a flywheel.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the b16 tranny, you will be very happy. it will seem like it goes through the gears 5x faster. IMO dont waste your money on a flywheel. </TD></TR></TABLE>

GET THE FLYWHEEL!!!!!!!!!!

get the b16 tranny!!!!!!!!!!!!

you will be very happy with both....
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

GET THE FLYWHEEL!!!!!!!!!!

get the b16 tranny!!!!!!!!!!!!

you will be very happy with both....</TD></TR></TABLE>

if the flywheels werent so damn expensive id probably have one.

so yeah..... you will be happy with both (if you have the $$$)
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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i'm thinking I don't want a 7.5 flywheel, it seems alittle light, maybe a 12.5 act streetlight would be better. Does anyone know how much quicker my car could be with the b16 tranny and upgraded clutch/flywheel?
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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like 50 seconds faster!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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big improvement but not enough to knock a second off your 1/4 mile time

dont get any flyweel lighter than 11 lb
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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a b16 tranny on a ls is very nice but it keeps u high in the revs 4 daily driving
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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also, anyone know the average price for a b16 tranny? I'd also want to sell my LS tranny, it has a spec stage II clutch in it now. I've searched but not found much info on the average price of these two trannys.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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600-800 beacuse those r the trannys that everyone wants.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Its probably one of the best upgrades you can do. The diffrence is like night and day.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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600-800 is a good amount of cash, any idea how much I could get for my LS tranny?
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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not sure how much its actually gonna take off of the 1/4 mile but you'll feel it! i have a fidanza 8lb flywheel and i absolutly LOVE it!!! once you get used to the difference in revs you'll be a very happy man! if you can find one with an lsd you'll be even that much more happy but definatly get the b16 or at least a gsr and the flywheel! good luck!
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">big improvement but not enough to knock a second off your 1/4 mile time

dont get any flyweel lighter than 11 lb</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes it will knock 1 second off his time!!!


please explain why not to get lighter than 11 lbs??

i wouldn't trade my 8.xx lb exedy or fidanza or toda for an 11 pound gold flywheel!!
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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anyone else want to jump in?
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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The fidanza is not too light. Myself and several others can daily drive on it perfectly fine. We installed the act streetlite 12lb in a friends integra and after driving it I wasnt happy with it. It seemed different than stock but it wasnt really noticeable for 180-200 dollars.

I have no regrets on going with the fidanza other than downtime waiting for a replacement friction surface.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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yea get the tranny and flywheel my buddy has the same setup it is really quick off the line
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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yea I want to get the tranny, I'm wondering how much labor is going to cost to do the swap on top of the price of the tranny and clutch/flywheel
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Labor is the most expensive part, just get some buddies and pay them beer + dinner to help you swap the tranny. You could probably get round $300-350 for the LS in cool condition, and then the B16 will cost u $550-800 depending just like they said.
you could also save a little bit more and get a TypeR tranny with the LSD for $950+ the gearing is the same as the B16. The GSR tranny is only a little longer than the B16.

If you plan on continuing to modify the LS engine for more power, or eventually adding forced induction/NO2 etc... then the flywheel will probably be a good idea. Less rotating mass is always a good idea.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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u will notice a big improvement trust me, after installing a gsr tranny in mine, its probably been the second biggest gain ive ever felt in my car.

First was the swap itself
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Performance of LS motor and b16 tranny..... (chad)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

GET THE FLYWHEEL!!!!!!!!!!

get the b16 tranny!!!!!!!!!!!!

you will be very happy with both....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I loved it when I went that route.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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b16 tranny= ... ive had a few friends blow the diffs out of b16's before... one guy did it 2 times on a cable one and another guy on a hydro one... dunno if the b16 diff just wasnt made to handle the torque of the ls or if it was just how thry drove ... i just thought it was odd they both did exactly the same thing and only on b16 trannies
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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thanks for the responses, can anyone recommend a good flywheel to be paired with a act clutch. this is a daily driver and I probably won't do many more mods after the tranny swap.
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