I know bolt ons do little to nothing in terms of adding power and cutting times. But I always hear people saying you have to tune it to get the full potential HP. So what would be the options on tuning them. hondata/uberdata? SAFC ? dyno tune ? just tell me everything cause I really want to learn. And don't tell me to search because I have not found anything that I found on tuning bolt-ons to full potential. thank you.

 

Yeah you could basically tune with uberdata, hondata, vafc, etc.. but all would have to be dyno tuned, as in tuned while on the dyno, to get the full potential of your setup. Usual prices for dyno tuning in my area are around $150 per hour. And generally it takes about 1-2 hours to do.

 

would SAFC alone be fine without hondata/uberdata?


Modified by redDAinteg at 3:24 AM 6/10/2005

 

yeah that would work.. as long as you get it dyno tuned..

 

with basic bolt on's you dont really need to tune. once you start to get the engine to really breath then tuning would be more worthwhile.

 

the best way to tune I/H/E is to get some cam gears and either a chipped ecu or something to control fuel curves and then dyno tune it.

matching a header and some properly tuned cam gears can make some power.

 

so basically its better to dyno tune after you get all the mods you want bolt-ons, cams,cam gears, pistons etc. then do a dyno tune right ?

 

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well yes.. if you go dyno it now how are you going to tune it?? by changing your ignition timing? you have to have something to tune (ex. cam gears, fuel computer, etc.).

 

ya theres really not that much to tune with just I/H/E...wait til you get cams/gears/IM/ect...otherwise your wasting money to early...

 

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Best remark yet! Tunning now will not do any good. The gain you get will not be noticed. At least get Camshafts and camgears (you will need to upgrade your valve springs and retainers with cams) and then tune. This will give you the tunning you want.
And to answer your original question, uberdata tunning on a Dyno is best bang for the buch IMO.

 

Actually, you are all wrong. I've seen up to 10whp tuned out of a basic modded car with hondata just by tuning the fuel curve and ignition.. You can dyno tune hp out of a stock car just because the factory settings are tuned for economy, and comfort. To verify my statement, I called a couple reputable dyno places and asked what I could get out of my car from basic i/h/e and hondata.. Both replied that you could get from 5-10whp, which is DEFINATELY going to be noticed.

Oh, and another benefit of the dyno tuning is that you can set your rev limiter to a higher point, so if you still safely make power past stock redline, you will be able to use it.

And one more benefit, is learning the optimal time to shift, because you can see where you make peak power, and where your power starts to drop off...





Modified by JDMH22EJ at 3:29 PM 6/10/2005

 

Consider using Crome as opposed to Hondata/Uberdata. As good as they are, the newer Crome releases are a couple of steps ahead.

 

I am hearing really good things about chrome.. Im gonna have to try it sometime soon.

 

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CROME. John Cui's ROM Editor

 

heheh sorry bout the mis-type hahah, wasn't thinking and spelled it how it sounded.. lol

 

you could start out by advancing your ignition timing 2 degrees

it doesnt cost any money.