hey everyone i have a 91 hatch should i do a b16 swap or ls swap thanks

 

all depends on you, how fast you want to make your car in the future, but a b16 will be faster, right after the swap, but i think there is more stuff you can do with a ls if you plan on going any further

 

i have a b16 in my car i would deff go with that my friend has a ls in a hatch and i smoke it all the time

 

b16 man lots faster top end but a ls is tuqrue . b16 will pull on ls with same car tranny and everything..

anyways i got a b16a jdm crx sir motor with pr3 ecu vtec at 5000, ls vtec wire harness. fits to any obd0 car perfect

or i got a b18 ls block and head serprated block totally stock, head has skunk2 vavles, skunk3 rentainers, and skunk2 springs, and pr4 ecu

i got everything ebsides a tranny for a b series swap.. i even got a tranny but its on its last leg.. if ur interested call 209-406-4240
other then parting out a 90 ls integra with mods...

 

yea i think i might go witha b16 but everyones been telling me that ls kills a b16

 

Stock the b16 would be better but if you plan on doing a turbo the ls will be much easier, cheaper, and more powerful. And the ls motor is only like 700-800 bucks to begin with...

 

Full b18a swaps can be had cheap and are found everywhere..
You dont have to wire vtec..
They are 1.8L so they have more tq and low end power then a b16..
The parts for it are easy to find and cheap..
b18a/b is better for boost..

On the other hand the tranny sucks..
It cant rev high without being unstable..It starts vibrating like a motha after 7000rpm....
The head cant flow worth **** compared to a pr3 b16 head..
It has no vtec..
Its ugly

I would get the b18 though..Just so much more potential in the future..

 

yea i changed my mind because one of ym friedns has an eg witha ls with si tranny and ****** is pretty quick and i was planning on doin boost eventually

 

good choice , i was debating the same thing a couple weeks ago . i have a b18a1 in my 90 rex , and this guy from one of my classes wanted to trade motors for his b16 . It probably would have been a good trade bc that engine cost more but i like the torque that it has , and i plan on going ls turbo soon so i decided not to . Nothing against the b16 though just the b18 is my personal preference

 

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everyone that thinks a B16 is faster in a EF is smokin CRACK!!!! I have an '89 Si Hatch and I had an LS in it before I got my new motor. I used to run B16 hatches and CRX's all the time, I would pull the shyt out of them off the line cause of the extra torque, they'd start to catch up, but once I got into another gear the torque would win. I would go LS. that way you have the option of LS/Vtec, or LS Turbo, it comes w/more torque, and more potential. LS OWN YOU

 

I have a LS turbo right now fully built. anyways im selling the motor to buy a b16a and putting the turbo on that. the LS had way to many problems and terrible top end, going over 80mph was ScArY!! go with the b16a its expose to be in the car unlike the LS.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wc300zx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a LS turbo right now fully built. anyways im selling the motor to buy a b16a and putting the turbo on that. the LS had way to many problems and terrible top end, going over 80mph was ScArY!! go with the b16a its expose to be in the car unlike the LS.</TD></TR></TABLE>


wtf are talking about. ITs quite obvious your engine wasnt "built" correctly. And wtf are you talking about top-end over 80 was scary? If you car was shaking and **** its probably because of ill-rotated tires, ball joints, bad alignment.

Your built ls turbo should have been putting down the ******* #'s on boost.


Am i the only one that realizes HP is made from torque and that a broad flat torque curve is what actually makes your car fast? Who want 400whp for 1k rpm when you can have 300wtq from 4-7.5k...


People need to stop looking at peak numbers...


Jager &gt; me and makes me a violent person...

 

haha chill out why is everyone on this forum a spaz. first of all you cant say sh*t about my car you dont know me or my car so stfu and stop assuming things. my car was put together well. a LS should not be in a crx AT ALL. a B16, ZC, or stock motor are really the only 3 motors that should go in there if you dont want any problems in the long run.

 

You guys do realize that the engine's power lies in how you build it?

A B16A is faster out of the box than an LS. A Turbo B16 will make more power on lower boost than an LS.

A B16 has more compression.

A B16 has a better tranny.

Just put a little more into a turbo build for a B16, and it'll make more power, and hold together just as well.

Geebus..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wc300zx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha chill out why is everyone on this forum a spaz. first of all you cant say sh*t about my car you dont know me or my car so stfu and stop assuming things. my car was put together well. a LS should not be in a crx AT ALL. a B16, ZC, or stock motor are really the only 3 motors that should go in there if you dont want any problems in the long run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF... The onlt engine that was meant for the USDM ED chassis was SOHC D's

And wtf is the difference between the LS and b16 block the makes them bolt to the chassis different, let alone more reliable than the other... Your ******* stupid...


If anyhting an LS swap would be more reliable b/c you wouldnt have idiotic ************* tryin to wire the ECU every which way...


dont get me started...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WTF... The onlt engine that was meant for the USDM ED chassis was SOHC D's

And wtf is the difference between the LS and b16 block the makes them bolt to the chassis different, let alone more reliable than the other... Your ******* stupid...


If anyhting an LS swap would be more reliable b/c you wouldnt have idiotic ************* tryin to wire the ECU every which way...


dont get me started...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll get you started.

I hooked up 4 wires. It took me 10 mins. Ouch. I'm an idiotic ************.

 

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I'll get you started.

I hooked up 4 wires. It took me 10 mins. Ouch. I'm an idiotic ************.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im just ranting about stupid kids that do swaps claiming they know ****. I just had a bad experience today with it.


these this engine Vs. this engine threads are pretty pointless anyway...

My opinion is just coming from someone who has had both. I just prefer the LS on boost and a better geared tranny over the b16 on boost and b16 tranny any day. Way more fun to drive and IMO puts makes more use of the power.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im just ranting about stupid kids that do swaps claiming they know ****. I just had a bad experience today with it.


these this engine Vs. this engine threads are pretty pointless anyway...

My opinion is just coming from someone who has had both. I just prefer the LS on boost and a better geared tranny over the b16 on boost and b16 tranny any day. Way more fun to drive and IMO puts makes more use of the power. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's an old topic choice... the guys with the B16 think it's the best, the guys with the B18A's think they're the best. I just like to argue. lol.

 

I have a b18a and no i dont think its the best. a b16a isnt expose to go into a crx? then what the hell is a Sir dummy. anyways b16a b18a period.

 

Im gonna have to vote b16 because it seems to be a really strong motor and revs fast, s1 tranny is good ****, and there is tons and tons of upgrades for them. And you cant forget about VTEC. Also with the b16 i guess you could always upgrade with a stroker kit or the ls crank/pistons. Anyway there are a couple of ls's running around town and I just got my rebuilt b16 in so maybe I will have something more to go by after I run a few. I say screw the ls

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VashTheStampede &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's an old topic choice... the guys with the B16 think it's the best, the guys with the B18A's think they're the best. I just like to argue. lol. </TD></TR></TABLE>


:big cheezy grin:

&lt;-- pretend its Jager


also you can put an ls crank/rods in a b16 block. VTEC, what the ****, IMHO that just to get better gas mileage and good street driveabilty. Id rather have a nice ground cam in my car and make the bitch sound like a bike at idle. And I have a b18b, not a big difference. Oh, and the LS is more of a stout engine than a b16, due to slighyly beefier rods and lower compression pistons that can take a good amoutn of boost reliably. Hence this is why i am saying with boost, ls is better, if not b16 is better.


EDIT: grammatical errors


Modified by untitled at 8:19 PM 1/23/2005

 

Ls's are severly limited by the tranny they come with. It effin horrible unless your up around 350+ whp.

 

havent you already had this SAME exact topic?? https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1087697

 

Oh, and the LS are more of a stout engine than a b16, due to slightly chucknier rods and lower compression postons that can take the **** rape b00st provides.

boost doest cause this HP does. again b16 lol