car smokes on deceleration........??? what can it be?

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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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Default car smokes on deceleration........??? what can it be?

on idle very little smoke.......
rev it on neutral...still very litttle smoke


regular driving out of boost it doesnt smoke(car still hasnt hit boost) but when i stop at a light or let off the gas it puffs a huge cloud of smoke.....bluish/white(oil)


setup is an lsvtec new pistons/rings...new valve seals new valve job...new sc61 turbo with toyosupr manifold.....im guessing those are the 3 things it can be...its a new build with 200 miles......any advice?????

i thought it was a crimped oil return but its perfect and the feed is a -4 with a greddy oil filter sandwich
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Its either the oil return or just a bad oil seal on the turbo.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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Bullseye. When mine did this it was because of a constrictive drain line.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its either the oil return or just a bad oil seal on the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Blown turbo seals will do this when you deccelerate. I've seen it a LOT on turbo cars, stock or moddified, when they do it on deceleartion only the seals have usually gone
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its either the oil return or just a bad oil seal on the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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On my first turbo set-up my oil feed line was too big, and my car smoked like that. I ordered a new one from Stan and have never had the problem again

It also could have too much oil in it &lt; - - - - Just a thought
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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My buddy had that with his Edelbrock turbo kit. Worked on the oil drain line for a while and finally just sent the turbo back. Garrett inspected it and found the oil seals were bad in the turbo and he got a new turbo.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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Default Re: car smokes on deceleration........??? what can it be? (miamidamian)

when u downgraded oil feeds did u go from what to what....-4 to -3????
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miamidamian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when u downgraded oil feeds did u go from what to what....-4 to -3????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes -4 to-3An
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Default Re: car smokes on deceleration........??? what can it be? (HybridHatch88)

how bad did it smoke b4/ after...i know someone that told me i can use a nos jet to restrict flow of oil feed......and i know someone who told me to disconnec the feed and run the car a little to check if it still smokes........i wanted to race this weekend at moros and wanna see if thats it....im hoping it isnt oil seals.....


all my friends on boost have -4 w/o a problem.......so i dont see why this would happen
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miamidamian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all my friends on boost have -4 w/o a problem.......so i dont see why this would happen</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have no clue, but this is the first thing I changed out and it fixed the problem ?
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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You say you have done the valve stem seals? are they located properly?
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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new seals.....new valve job...pistons/rings/...head gasket..........all new even the sc61 is new......oil return is at a 45 degree angle...and a -10 unrestricted.....no crimps...


the feed is like i said a -4 that comes into the turbo at a 90 degree........i might downgrade to a -3 and see what happens...i hope its that pray 4 me....lol!
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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bump
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Default Re: car smokes on deceleration........??? what can it be? (miamidamian)

Same thing was happening to me, thought it was a valve seal and it was the turbo instead.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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That's not good. I have a very light smoke while decelerating. The "s" shaped return probably isn't helping those turbo seals though .

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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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I'm thinking it's the turbo also Damian.. isn't that the one you said you borrowed from Yuyu that you thought might be bad anyways?
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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my old 50 trim t3 tended to smoke on decel even with a -3an feed. So I made a restrictor out of an 1/8"NPT alen head plug that I tapped into the bottom of my feed fitting on the turbo. worked great.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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more help please
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: car smokes on deceleration........??? what can it be? (miamidamian)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miamidamian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more help please</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much more help do you need. Your question has been answered. Inpspect your oil return line, fix it if it looks somewhat kinked, then tell us if it's still doing it. Would you like one of us to come to your house and adjust your return line??
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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[QUOTE=miamidamian]new seals.....new valve job...pistons/rings/...head gasket..........all new even the sc61 is new......oil return is at a 45 degree angle...and a -10 unrestricted.....no crimps...


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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miamidamian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its a new build with 200 miles</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your rings may not even be seated yet. I'd wait a little while longer and see if it goes away. Does is smoke worse when your in boost?
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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I have the exact same symptoms, it is my turbo seals for sure. Bought a rebuild kit which I am putting on next week should take care of the problem.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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car hasnt hit boost at least over 1 psi.........after 250 miles it shouldnt smoke at all......
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unsivil_audio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your rings may not even be seated yet. I'd wait a little while longer and see if it goes away. Does is smoke worse when your in boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Those rings are long seated.
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