Im really considerring not doing a boost setup for my first high hp setup. Just seems like a lot of things can go wrong, and when they do, its always huge engine failure.

Ive got a fully built D16a6, head and block done to the ****. A little over 10:1 compression and I plan to run about 16-18psi daily driven on a T3 .60/.63 and TurboEdit tuned by Xenocron himself

To me for a person who knows really not to much about all the mechanical pieces of the wastegate, actuators and things, to much oil, oil restrictors, map sensors, vacuum being all routed properly, blowing rings

And the electrical work, Turboedit, electronic boost controller, wideband, MSD 6BTM, oil/boost and such gauges.

Im looking for some opinions on seriously hor hard it would be for you guys, I know most of you have experience and such and probably started out with a low budget setup, internal wastegate and an FMU.

Im only 18 so I dont know much, nor do my friends nor are there any shops in the area related to anything performance.

Just looking for real answers, its either boost or 150 shot direct port which is fairly easy, but refilling bottles every 4 runs and not always having the pwer there and the BOV is its major downside.....

Need opinions, serious one

Thanks

 

It would be awesome much better then the n20, you would not want to run that much boost daily you simply don't get traction. And you may need to use higher octane then 93 to run that much boost with that C/R
. You will have to have a heavy clutch and stiff motor mounts bigger injectors so maybe a poor idle when cold and car that can be annoying in traffic. But thats what you get. With EBC you can change the boost when you like so it is the most practical option.

 

Well Ive got DSM 450's

Limited to 93 octane

**** traction, most of my runs are from a roll or just playing around with myself having fun, driving the car like it loves to be. The car is a blast all motor already, I cant imagine 150 shot or 16 psi....

But I wont have to much knowledge when **** goes wrong, on what went wrong or how to prevent it form going wrong...

Know what Im saying?

 

Just do it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 Cam Wonder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well Ive got DSM 450's

Limited to 93 octane

**** traction, most of my runs are from a roll or just playing around with myself having fun, driving the car like it loves to be. The car is a blast all motor already, I cant imagine 150 shot or 16 psi....

But I wont have to much knowledge when **** goes wrong, on what went wrong or how to prevent it form going wrong...

Know what Im saying?

</TD></TR></TABLE> Yeah well the injectors may get maxed out and the octane rating may limit boost levels. Search this site there is a lot of info. You most likely will have problems with clutch's and things like that your car will be off the road from time to time this is a given. I would suggest getting a shop to install the turbo setup if you don't have the knowledge or tools to fabricate the parts. Get it tuned for the boost levels you want to run and then just leave as is, do regular maintenance. Should be fun.

 

The actual mechanical part of the setup is not a problem for me at all.

Ive got the engine on the stand and can mock up my manifold, turbo, oil feed/return lines, downpipe.

Charge pipes and intercooler are no problem. Im sure BOV and wastegate vacuum isnt hard

Only thing I can see ******* up is wiring the GM 3bar , boost controller, wideband

Or if something goes wrong, like Im getting a boost spike or the wastegate is letting out at 5psi..... (electronic boot controller does this correct?)




Modified by 1 Cam Wonder at 7:16 PM 11/28/2004

 

man if you can install a turbo kit you can maintain it. As far as installing a gm 3 bar map sensor or if your having problems with your wastegate...relax thats what honda-tech is here for, every person in this forum is here for basically the same reason, to help each other out and ask/inform questions. just put the turbo kit on, forget the n20. you'll be much happier.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Devine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man if you can install a turbo kit you can maintain it. As far as installing a gm 3 bar map sensor or if your having problems with your wastegate...relax thats what honda-tech is here for, every person in this forum is here for basically the same reason, to help each other out and ask/inform questions. just put the turbo kit on, forget the n20. you'll be much happier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kowalski &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I cant agree any less. Here was my point of view of Turbo.

6 months ago..Here what i have to deal with..

-What is BOV, WG, COMPRESSOR, VACUMM, CHARGE PIPES!? etc..
-How does Turbo work?
-What is needed to have "turbo"?
-How much will this cost?
-Where to start? Me, Knowing no Experience or Prior knowledge of Turbo.
-I have never ride in a Turbo/Boosted car before.
-What do i do for Fuel? Whats neccessary to even run the Turbo!
-Where does this Go????? and what does that do??
-Never welded anything in my life!

I was COMPLETELY clueless on TURBO overall.. No prior Knowledge or Tune.

Thanks to Honda-Tech and the gOodo members and sponsors! Learned alot from the "search" button. LOLZ! I hate to say, but its true.

Within 1 month of reading, and buying stuff while I gain knowledge of it, little by little. And welps, till you know it.

I am currently running a 96gsr converted to obd1 with uberdata..t3to4e..and yes the ssauto manifold..tial wg....greddy S bov...HuGE intercooler....etc..etc..etc!!

at 6psi taking EVO 8, STI, SRT...etc!! and street tires! I am Proud everyday, that wow, I did all this in 1 month! From learning to building, to completing the setup!

and Self tuned....! and SELF INSTALL! and all CUSTOM DONE in my GARAGE by me!

Been close to 6 months, and running STRONG!

AND YES, ME HAVING NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE or EXPERIENCE with TURBO!! READING Honda-TEch all day helped me alot~! Yes, I do feel like a nerd at times reading in the morning..afternoon and night....

So, I say you start searching for articles, and grasping yourself the concept of being turbo and how to do it etc... You will eventually learn to love the search button...

 

I wish people would have more DIY on boost controllers n such

Ive already got the turbo, engine mangment, tuning gear (wideband, egt) and a BUILT! motor

Gonna start piecing tomorrow, money is no problem here, Im 18 making $500/week with no bills other than insurance ($300/month)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 Cam Wonder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish people would have more DIY on boost controllers n such

Ive already got the turbo, engine mangment, tuning gear (wideband, egt) and a BUILT! motor

Gonna start piecing tomorrow, money is no problem here, Im 18 making $500/week with no bills other than insurance ($300/month)

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Im actually running a CHEAP ebay MBC from Ebay. Costed $12 shipped to me. YOu can make it, but why not buy something that I know works. -=P and CMON its $12, you cant be that cheap can you?

http://www.c-speedracing.com (go to the HOW TO section, on top menu) They got a DIY Manual Boost Controller in there. Goodluck.

EVEN YET: heres the direct link http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/mbc/mbc.php

 

well i suggest to you to read about and learn about turbo. i am 18 too but installing a turbo kit and what not, taught me a lot of about it. Experience is the key and you will gain in later. if you dont know about turbo dont boost 16.

 

oh yea i dont know about you guys but make sure you got another ride or a friend to help, you might need a little part, get a bolt or other pinta and you will need them greatly. Good luck

 

Going boosted is never a bad idea, but just realize that minor things will pop up time from time as far as maintaince goes, and may cause your car some down time. For the questions that you have just do some searching in the archived sections because if there is anything that you are wanting to know, you came to the right place. There are plenty of people are this forum that know what they are talking about, and that can help you out with any problems that you might run into. But the key thing is to do a search before making the post.

As far as doing boost over a 150 shot, I would go boost. Have a 16-18lb setting, bust also have a lower setting of around 9-10lbs that you can daily drive around, and then be able to turn the boost up to make the motor last longer. The only thing I suggest is to get it tuned by someone. No matter if it's VAFC/Hondata/whatever, get it tuned by someone that knows what they are doing and it should lost quite a while.

 

Thats the one thing I am coverred for, TUNING!

Im good buds with one of the creators of TurboEdit, can get work done no prob, most will be done on the street because like I said, there are no performance shops around here.

No I dont have another car to scoot around in, but Im planning to use my 2 weeks vacation time that I didnt use this summer in early march to drop in the built motor and turbo it.

Hopefully I wont be fucked by installing so many dam things at once

 

it might be wise to pick up a $200 beater just in case... just leave it in the driveway or behind the house.. figure.. if you miss 2 days of work because your car is down.. 200 bucks lost.. so its worth it to have the other car.. all you have to do is call your insurance co and transfer your ins to it (takes 5 min)

 

if youve spend this much money so far, dont go getto now. 16 or 18 pds is not that hard to do. ive do it for over a yr now no problems. look at my sig, that setup netted me high 11s low 12s allday no spray.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbozxi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And you may need to use higher octane then 93 to run that much boost with that C/R. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He should be able to do 15-17psi with that C/R and 93 octane. This is assuming very good tuning.